Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
- Subject: Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
- From: Thomas <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:38:29 +1100
I've never used Eclipse (although I've used a few other Java IDEs), but
it seems to me that one of the most important features of WebObjects as
a web application development environment (as opposed to a Java
programming environment) is its ability to rapidly generate powerful
applications without having to write much code. I try to avoid code as
much as possible, even though I'm quite competent as a Java programmer,
because I believe I'm more productive that way and because it is much
more self-documenting than code, with the page layout and bindings
being a very powerful form of documentation. I'm trying to approach
zero lines of code per day!
I swear at WOBuilder every day because of its long-standing unfixed
bugs, but I'd swear much louder and longer if I had to rebuild the
project every time I made a tiny change in WOBuilder. Xcode is a
perfectly adequate tool for me for WO development. Code completion
works fine for me, although it would be nice to have it work with the
built-in Java classes as well.
Of course YMMV, but I just wanted to point out that there are more
important things than quickly writing lots of lines of code.
Thomas
On 25/03/2004, at 13:45, James Cicenia wrote:
Well for my two cents... I was a complete newbie when I started my
project and I have to say that
I am very pleased with Eclipse. Mind you it has some idiosyncrasies
but I have learned to deal with
them in my own idiosyncratic methods. I still can't figure out how to
search all my files including the
wod files. Chuck do you know how? Also, I do have to rebuild when I
edit my wod files in WOBuilder.
Finally WOBuilder doesn't always see all the new methods in my
subclasses. Other than that it has
worked like a charm and has only crashed once on my Powerbook and we
are talking 12 hours days
of use.
-James
On Mar 24, 2004, at 8:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
Where shall I start. It crashes more than Eclipse. The indexing is
painful and serves no function that I can discern. It loves to cache
out of date things in the build directory so that builds fail on out
of date problems. The project file format is too complex to fix by
hand when problems happen. The whole targets and build configuration
thing is a byzantine nightmare. Try WOProject and Ant. You'll never
go want to go back. Code completion blows. The auto/re indent works
better than Eclipse though. I hate waiting for it to build. Eclipse
stays build with every change. It is always ready to run. Clumsy
configuration of launch parameters. The debugger is lacking.
Eclipse shows errors on the fly as you type. It has an integrated
class browsers that does not hide things that Apple thinks you should
not see. xCode was not built to build Java (or WO apps). I could go
on but I've work to do.
Chuck
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