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Re: Why WebObjects?
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Re: Why WebObjects?


  • Subject: Re: Why WebObjects?
  • From: Ricardo Strausz <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:48:10 +0200

>    1. Re: Why WebObjects? (Art Isbell)
>
> From: Art Isbell <email@hidden>
> Date: May 21, 2004 3:59:40 AM CEST
> To: List: WebObjects <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Why WebObjects?

As Chuck, EOF was my primary motivation to buy my first WO (it was 4.x
or so). I come from NeXT platform, and EOF born there. It was the ideal
solution to provide database-independent client/server apps for many
platforms: Intel, Motorola, HP-PA...

After the spread of Java (and WO 5) it was now also architecture
independent. However, it make me feel as a newbie; many things changed
(for good) and now I can understand why newbies sometimes run somewhere
else...

My advice is, do not run; once you learn some few basics, you will be
able to do MANY things ---not to say when you dominate the tool.

Dino

pd One more thing: try Cocoa Enterprise Objects Framework, and you will
never want to work with something else.

(A bit more below)

>
>
> On May 20, 2004, at 2:32 PM, James Cass wrote:
>
>> That said, I was very disappointed after I bought WebObjects 5.0.  It
>> was my fault for not finding out more about the product.  I thought
>> for THAT much money it was a complete solution in a box, and it must
>> be good if it's from Apple.  However, no database table
>> creation/edit/manage module was included!

WO is not that expensive...

>
> 	Huh!?  EOModeler support defining entities, attributes, and
> relationships.  Then you can ask EOModeler to build a database schema
> in your chosen database.  This capability depends on whether database
> creation is supported by the database-specific WO JDBC plug-in, but it
> is for the WO JDBC plug-ins included with WO.
>
>> I was now on my own to figure out if I should go with OpenBase,
>> PostgreSQL, MySQL, or whatever.

OpenBase, wasn't there?

>
> 	Most people consider that to be an advantage.  WO is
> database-independent.  Besides, you can use one of the public domain
> databases with WO at no extra cost.
>
>> Did I say I was disappointed?  I was really bummed!!  I ass-umed that
>> I was getting a slick user-friendly, intuitive, revolutionary
>> COMPLETE web-database development solution.  Oh well.  I'm a doofass.
>>  :-(

Maybe not user-friendly, BUT intuitive, revolutionary and COMPLETE for
sure!

>
> 	You must not have taken the time to learn what WO includes.  Most WO
> developers seem to feel that there are few Web-database development
> suites that are as sophisticated as WO.  But it can be overkill for
> simple Web sites.
>
>> You may be better off keeping your money, and just learn MySQL, PHP,
>> Perl, and Unix shell scripting.  That's my 2 kopeks.
>
> 	Now you're talking about some slick user-friendly, intuitive,
> revolutionary COMPLETE web-database development solutions :-)
>
> Aloha,
> Art
>
>
>
>
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