Re: Learning Curve
Re: Learning Curve
- Subject: Re: Learning Curve
- From: Sean Warburton <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:08:50 +0000
Thanks Chuck, Fabian & Art,
You're all telling me what I really knew in my heart of hearts, I
probably just needed to hear it straight from the horses mouth. I
suppose I better get my head into the books again. I appreciate you
taking the time to offer the advice, keep an eye out for me in the
future, I'll be back to badger you all.
Best wishes
Sean
On 12 Jan 2005, at 21:51, Chuck Hill wrote:
My advice is to not use WebObjects. With your background and a 20
week timeline you are setting yourself up to get royally screwed.
WebObjects is a tool for professional developers and not something you
can just pick up and play with and rack out what you need. I've done
a fair bit of one on one mentoring at Global Village and I figure it
takes a better than average university Comp Sci graduate at least 12
months to get really proficient in WO. Yes, they can do things before
that but it gives you an idea of their background and the learning
curve that they face.
Once you implement your client's system using something you feel
comfortable with, go back and recreate it in WO. You will have no
time pressures and it will be an excellent learning environment with
no possibility of losing your shirt or getting sued silly. First go
through something like Bruce Eckle's Thinking in Java really
thoroughly. Once you feel comfortable with the concepts in that, then
tackle WO. We'll be here for you.
Chuck
On Jan 12, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Sean Warburton wrote:
I realise that it may be like asking how long is a piece of string
but I have a question that I wonder if people could help me with.
I've been contemplating learning Java and WebObjects for 12 months
now but reading this list is about as far as I seem to get. A client
of mine has asked me to quote for a small and relatively simple
e-commerce site and I'm faced with a dilemma.
I can either buy an off the shelf shopping cart or I can use the
opportunity to learn Java and WebObjects and build it myself. My
question is, is the latter feasible or would the learning curve be
far too steep. I have twenty weeks to get the site live but I have no
programming background other than a little 'tinkering' with Perl and
getting as far as loops in Java.
I've read a little on Java but have really fallen down when trying to
get my head around objects, I understand their logic in principal but
I just seem unable to get my head around inheritance and code reuse.
Any advice would be very welcome.
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