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Re: Health of WebObjects - developer/user base?
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Re: Health of WebObjects - developer/user base?


  • Subject: Re: Health of WebObjects - developer/user base?
  • From: Benjamin J Doherty <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:29:03 -0600

On Jan 16, 2005, at 2:13 AM, Ken Tozier wrote:

How busy are you WebObject pros?

I'm pretty busy... most of my clients are non-profit organizations/NGOs who want low-cost, efficiency, and maintenance to be put above buzzwords, most of which they've never heard anyway. EJB? J2EE? Non-profits, in my experience, don't care as long as they can see a working database application that does what they want.


Do you get the sense that it's something Apple plans to stick with for the next five years or so?

I think Apple plans to stick with WebObjects unless there's development plans to push Tiger's CoreData to the enterprise level in the next 5 years. This would be a real shame if it happened at the expense of WebObjects, because I'm not a Mac developer. I recognize that Cocoa is a very intelligently designed API, but Java is what puts beer in my mug until there's a lot more than 5% market share of Macs in the world.


Have WebObjects projects been a hard sell to clients?

Not to non-profits. In my experience, they've tended to focus on end results that meet the requirements of a proposal and meet or surpass the restrictive funding non-profits have for technology projects. In fact, I've just landed a job as the IT director of a Chicago-based youth community service organization, which also has plans to open a public policy charter school in the next 5 years. WebObjects, whether they know it or not (I already bought them a license), will be among the core products that run their operations in fundraising and participant tracking.


I know that a lot of developers are dependent on the for-profit sector for their livelihood, but non-profit organizations in the U.S. have been an unrecognized Apple stronghold... once an agency converts to Mac from Windows, they've never doubted the decision. Certain apps in accounting and payroll keep them on Windows. Filemaker is also another factor, which is used a great deal—in my experience—by social service agencies and community organizations... I'll probably be investigating WooF in the coming months to get my clients off the Filemaker habit... which isn't a bad habit, but it is an expensive and non-standard one.

Benjamin J Doherty
Chicago Illinois
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References: 
 >Newbie EOModeler problems (From: Ken Tozier <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Newbie EOModeler problems (From: Simon Coles <email@hidden>)
 >Health of WebObjects - developer/user base? (From: Ken Tozier <email@hidden>)

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