Re: WebObjects 5.3
Re: WebObjects 5.3
- Subject: Re: WebObjects 5.3
- From: Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:48:35 +0000
Pleasel, oh please.
Apple, please, release some sort of statement. Give us a hint about
where you are going. Oh please. Oh dear lord, I'm so tired of defending
this secrecy bullshit to myself and my customers.
I am a polite person. I never complain. I never lash out. I rarely ever
use the word "bullshit". I'm just tired. WebObjects rules, no doubt
about it. I love it, I've used it for over 8hrs a day for the past five
years and I don't regret it. I'd love to use it for all my future web
projects, but I _need_ to know. What is going on?
So darn tired,
- Hugi
PS: This mail had a lot more expletives before my proofreading.
On 7.6.2005, at 22:30, Sacha Mallais wrote:
On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:14 PM, email@hidden wrote:
This is a really big deal for us; if we can only deploy on OS X then
we can't use WO at all. One of the things that attracted us to it
was the platform-independence. I can understand why it would be
attractive to Apple to give that up, as most of their other software
products are OS X only, but this seems like a move designed,
intentionally or not, to cut WO adoption off at the knees. It's
probably meant to boost purchases of XServes and reduce their support
burden, but those of us who have to sell this to clients know that
"oh, by the way you have to purchase and support a totally new kind
of server" isn't going to cut it. The purchases of XServes come
*after* the WO app is already running successfully on whatever they
already had in-house and everyone is impressed by how Totally Cool
Apple products are.
I personally have no problem with buying a copy of OS X Server and
sticking it on a shelf for each "other OS" installation I do, but
some clients get very antsy about running unsupported configurations
so even that is really not a great solution.
If there is an opportunity to give feedback to the WO team, I hope
someone is able to make this point to them as forcefully as possible
(after, of course, thanking them profusely for releasing 5.3).
I agree wholeheartedly that this is a big step backwards for WO
(although it has been happening slowly for the last several years -- I
guess this year is just the final death knell of cross platform
support). Getting WO Developer for free is nice, but it's not the
developers that need convincing, it's the people with the purchasing
power.
I guess the move from Objective-C to Java was really designed to allow
us WO programmers an exit strategy. :-(
sacha
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