Re: WO 5.3...confusion
Re: WO 5.3...confusion
- Subject: Re: WO 5.3...confusion
- From: steve stout <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 01:50:17 -0700
That sounds about right to me.
As I just said on another list.... The axiom "Apple is a hardware
company" applies here. But now that they have a viable server
platform of their own, it's no different than MS making .NET run only
on Windows.
The goal for WO (from Apple's perspective) is no longer to sell
licenses of the software, it's to sell hardware. Unfortunately, to
achieve this goal, it means some are going to get left behind.
That's life, that's business... it sucks.
steve.
On Jun 8, 2005, at 12:44 AM, Russell Miles wrote:
So, to try to understand things a bit more clearly:
If I've got a Windows developer, he can still use WebObjects at
5.2.x (for now) and the usual challenges to do with deployment stand.
If I've got a lucky Mac developer then he can use XCode 2.1 and
he'll be all set, until it comes to deployment and then he's got to
get licensing sorted out.
If I want to deploy to anything other than OS X (server) then
things will not be supported by Apple.
Does that sound about right?
My main worry is the Windows development to be honest - I simply
can't justify WebObjects adoption if the long-term roadmap for the
product is firmly 'development on Mac only'. It's a shame, because
people were really (finally) coming round to WO over here - (sigh)
On 8 Jun 2005, at 03:51, David E wrote:
They also stated that Apple will continue to allow builds as
stand alone wars and as long as Sun lives up to there motto of
"write once, run any where" .war files should work.
But if they don't then your on your own ;)
Cheers
Dave
---- Original message ----
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:08:22 -0700
From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: WO 5.3...confusion
To: email@hidden
Cc: Jeremy Matthews <email@hidden>, WebObjects
Developer <email@hidden>, WebObjects
Deployment <email@hidden>
I will echo Robert's comments. There was no ambiguity in the
statements made. Your choice for supported deployment is
OSX. Period.
I'm trying to recall if the license key is platform
specific. It was
at one time, but I don't think it is any more.
Chuck
On Jun 7, 2005, at 4:20 PM, Robert Snyder wrote:
Jeremy,
Apple was VERY clear. From WO 5.3 forward, WO is only
supported on OS X
for development AND deployment. If you want to deploy on
another
platform,
you need to do so using WO 5.2.4 or earlier. This is what
Apple is
supporting.
One might consider using 5.3 to create a .war file, buying
a copy of
OS X
Server, then locate the WO deployment license key file, use
it in your
.war deployment and then deploy on any compliant 1.4.2 or
1.5 JRE. If
you
do this, however, Apple will not support you. Doing this
would seem to
be
"legal," but it is clearly not supported.
This is a problem for us because we have WO applications
that run
executables on our Solaris boxes that require DCE/DFS.
Since there is
no
native DCE/DFS client for OS X, we cannot run these on our
Xserves--and we
have lots of them and love them--but we still need Solaris
boxes to
meet
some of our requirements.
Robert
Jeremy Matthews said:
Let's see...some good news
5.3 Dev is "free" (with 10.4 client)
5.3 Dep is "free" (with 10.4 server)
No news on 5.3 deps for non 10.4-systems (Windows,
especially)....BAD!
I hope we get a clear signal that WO is not dead for
deployment
on
other platforms...especially since we just submitted
a budget for
over $150k to deploy an enterprise system on Windows.....
Did I say....ack?
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