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Re: Hibernate 3.0 continues to innovate java industry
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Re: Hibernate 3.0 continues to innovate java industry


  • Subject: Re: Hibernate 3.0 continues to innovate java industry
  • From: James Cicenia <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:51:00 -0600

Thanks for all the responses.. after using EditingContexts I can't imagine not using them anymore.

Now about Cayenne.. is it still being actively developed?

- James Cicenia

On Mar 9, 2005, at 12:57 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:

Hibernate is similar to EOF. I meant to write a more coherent analysis on
Cayenne FAQ for some time... but here is a few points:


* Hibernate is a decent open source ORM worth anybody's attention - true *
Hibernate is very popular - true
* Hibernate is innovative - BS
* And of course the press release compares Hibernate to an EJB solution -
anything is better than EJB ;-)


Main difference with EOF (and Cayenne for that matter) is that there are
many more things to watch for in Hibernate (this is the price you pay for
the ability to persist arbitrary Java objects - POJO).


In EOF your EOs "live" within an editing context, giving you non-nonsense
transaction management (I don't recall anyone ever asking "how do I manage
transactions in EOF", while this is an FAQ #1 on any J2EE forum), seamless
object graph navigation, automatic management of bidirectional
relationships and other such things...


GUI modeling tools for Hibernate are lacking (even compared to EOModeler)
though there maybe better commercial ones that I don't know of. Hibernate
authors prefer JDK 1.5-style annotations to maintaining an external model.


Andrus Adamchik
.... a very biased Cayenne developer ...



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