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Re: WebObjects Bugs
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Re: WebObjects Bugs


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects Bugs
  • From: David Griffith <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:28:27 +0100

Dear Helge,

Yes of course some of the behaviours you can 'get used to' but as a developer myself, anything that does not operate as it should, or operates in a very erratic way which is not user-friendly, is a bug. It may not damage anything physically in the file, but it costs a lot of time. Inconvenient, certainly. A bug, certainly also.

The things that 'irritate' Xcode are nonetheless bugs also. I never edit a WOComponent while WOBuilder has it open, obviously that is going to cause confusion and problems. Likewise with EOModeler. It can be as simple as opening a model, editing it, saving it and closing it that will cause Xcode to hang. That is a bug.

Unfortunately the EOModel plugin is highly unstable. Hopefully this will be rectified in a future release. I think they are not unaware of this. However all the other things need to be reported as bugs. The whole purpose of reporting them is so that the developers know what needs to be fixed :-)

Regards,
David.

On 17 Nov 2005, at 15:43, Helge Staedtler wrote:

I have seen a lot of bugs fixed on the list Apple provides for the latest
release. And thats great.


I think that *some* of the described behaviours of WebObjects Builder are,
well.. you get used to them and there will always be *some* things which can
be improved. It's not that it damages something or breaks something. It is
just some "inconvenience" and not a "bug" I would say.


The hanging of xCode in conjunction to EOModeler and WebObjects Builder
relates to xCode to communicate with the other applications. I think there
are some things going one which irritate xCode (e.g. editing the source of a
WOComponent in xCode which is also open in WOBuilder; this should be
avoided; makes no real sense anyway; or you close WOBuilder during these
activities)


I have not tried the 5.3.1 in conjunction with xCode 2.2, but the
WOBuilder-"inconveniences" seem far less important than the EOModel.plugin
for xCode if using xCode for this is the path of the future.


my 2 cents,
helge


Am 17.11.2005 13:36 Uhr schrieb "David Griffith" unter <email@hidden>:

Hi all,

I'm surprised more of the bugs in WO Builder have not been fixed.
Can someone give me the proper way of reporting bugs for WO and I'll
submit a few bug reports.  I've waited through 2 or 3 releases now to
see if the very obvious ones would be fixed but they haven't been.

A few examples, maybe others can confirm that they have these
problems too:

WebObjects Builder:
Clicking on a table cell usually results in a block of cells being
selected, not the whole table, not just one cell but several cells
together, necessitating another click to get into the cell.
Clicking out of a table in the white space on the right causes the
entire page to jump to the bottom.
Hilighting of nested tables is very bad, you can't tell which one is
selected.
Often, clicking on an element and pressing CMD-1 to get the inspector
brings up a blank inspector. You have to click off the element and
back on a few times to get the inspector details.
Selecting a table row by clicking TR and right-clicking the row to
remove it actually appears to remove the whole table.
Most annoying of all, WO Builder just quits whenever it feels like it.
These are only a few, there are many more.


Xcode:
Randomly hangs the system, or quits unexpectedly.
Often hangs when closing an EOModel in EOModeler.  Where it would
normally return to Xcode, Xcode just won't respond.
Embedded EOModeler just does not seem to work.  I am actually scared
to save the model if the embedded modeler opens it as the previous 3
times I did this I lost all the column names in every entity.

EOModeler:
Appears to me to be quite a good application, however it does seem to
cause the above 'hang' with Xcode from time to time.
If you change the adaptor settings and then attempt to Generate SQL,
EOModeler appears to still use the old adaptor settings until you
quit and re-launch.


Kind regards, David.

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