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Re: WebObjects Bugs


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects Bugs
  • From: David Griffith <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:40:53 +0100

Hi Helge,

I agree, it's very difficult to release software with no bugs. What I was referring to were long-standing bugs that have not been fixed over several releases. It just made me wonder if they were actually aware of them. I am referring here to WebObjects builder specifically. I think the whole development suite is great and I hope no one thought I was slating it. I appreciate as much as the next person all the work that goes into releasing a new version of the suite. I didn't suggest the world was perfect, nor any given tool, but it is of course important to rectify bugs, not ignore them.

So, thanks Apple for making an effort to update the tools and I'll certainly have a look at the logged bugs (now that I know where they are) to see if any of the ones I have found have not been reported.

Kind regards
David.

On 21 Nov 2005, at 18:07, Helge Staedtler wrote:

Hi Lachlan, hi David!

I just wanted to make a point here mentioning that I really appreciate that
Apple is doing somthing in improving the tools. Sure nothing is perfect. The
world is not perfect... never. I mean, yeah, improvement is necessary and a
great thing.


Perhaps i was a little fast with my statement to praise the engineering team
at Apple for the improvements. Sorry for that one. Perhaps I just got used
to the small inconveniences the tools have and always had. Even under Mac OS
X Server 1.2 WebObjects had some flaws, that's life.


But it seems as if I am claimig a lonesome position here. Nothing is ever as
bad as it seems. Thats my point of view.


regards,
helge


Am 18.11.2005 3:07 Uhr schrieb "Lachlan Deck" unter <email@hidden>:

Hi there,

On 18/11/2005, at 1:43 AM, Helge Staedtler wrote:

I have seen a lot of bugs fixed on the list Apple provides for the
latest
release. And thats great.

Sure. But lots of new ones have arisen with the latest release...

I think that *some* of the described behaviours of WebObjects
Builder are,
well.. you get used to them and there will always be *some* things
which can
be improved. It's not that it damages something or breaks
something. It is
just some "inconvenience" and not a "bug" I would say.

No, - if bindings do not stick when creating a new key that's a bug. - if WebObjects builder opens a sheet Xcode should not hang when attemping to create a new file - <snips list of many interface bugs with WebObjects Builder 5.3.1>

I have not tried the 5.3.1 in conjunction with xCode 2.2, but the

Ahh - well then you've not been able to appreciate the reason for the noise on the list ;-) When you have upgraded you'll see what we mean.

Though the new WebObjects Builder's interface is buggy it shows a lot
of promise and I for one am glad that there's been an update to it
after all this time - and look forward even more to when the
interface bugs are ironed out. i.e., 5.3.1 is worse in various ways
to the previous 5.2.4 builder - but it won't trash your files, just
cause a little frustration with having to reapply bindings, figure
out which side of a WOString to click so that the inspector
recognises that you've selected something and so on... you get used
to it but it needs fixing.

WOBuilder-"inconveniences" seem far less important than the
EOModel.plugin
for xCode if using xCode for this is the path of the future.

Both need work - but seeing as you spend more time in WebObjects Builder than EOModeler (once you've got your eos modelled) then, well, you know, you need a tool that isn't quite so sensitive ;-)

with regards,
--

Lachlan Deck




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