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RE: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?
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RE: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?


  • Subject: RE: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?
  • From: Daniel Mejia <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:36:48 -0500

Hi Albert,

The confusion could be because WebSphere is a brand and this brand has many group of products. IBM classify their products in this categories: Application Servers, Business Integration, Commerce, Organization Productivity and Collaboration, etc., etc. 
All those products are a WebSphere line of software and they are sold separately. 
For the comparison I'm considering just the WebSphere Application Server category that I think its more close to WO. If you buy a WebSphere App Server you don't get any Portal Server or Business Integration product. If you want to have more functionality you have to pay for every different product,  by example, you have to pay 53,000 USD per processor just for the WebSphere Portal Express Plus and 187,000 USD for the WebSphere Business Integration Enterprise Edition.

Saludos,

Daniel.







On Sep 14, 2005, at 2:01 AM, email@hidden wrote:

Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:39:46 -0500

From: "Albert Jagnow" <email@hidden>

Subject: RE: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?

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Actually on item 5 below WebSphere is a lot more than just an application server.  So much more that I think it is confusing.  WebSphere while it has historically been IBM's answer to a J2EE application server, anymore more it is an IBM marketing term.  Under the WebSphere marketing umbrella IBM sells not only the application server part but also, portal services products, web services products, messaging services products, host access transformation tools for converting mainframe applications to the web, basically anything that could be considered middleware, and also development tools (which are basically 3GB of Eclipse plugins) that include tools not only for Java with Struts and EJB and JSF and the like, but also for mainframe application development using languages like RPG.  


Having developed applications with both the IBM WebSphere tools and the Apple WebObjects tools, in my opinion the Apple WebObjects approach is much more elegant than anything you will get with WebSphere.  Although that has more to do with underlying EJB and JSF than anything else.


--Albert




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