RE: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?
RE: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?
- Subject: RE: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?
- From: "Albert Jagnow" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:39:46 -0500
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- Thread-topic: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?
Actually on item 5 below WebSphere is a lot more than just an application server. So much more that I think it is confusing. WebSphere while it has historically been IBM's answer to a J2EE application server, anymore more it is an IBM marketing term. Under the WebSphere marketing umbrella IBM sells not only the application server part but also, portal services products, web services products, messaging services products, host access transformation tools for converting mainframe applications to the web, basically anything that could be considered middleware, and also development tools (which are basically 3GB of Eclipse plugins) that include tools not only for Java with Struts and EJB and JSF and the like, but also for mainframe application development using languages like RPG.
Having developed applications with both the IBM WebSphere tools and the Apple WebObjects tools, in my opinion the Apple WebObjects approach is much more elegant than anything you will get with WebSphere. Although that has more to do with underlying EJB and JSF than anything else.
--Albert
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From: webobjects-dev-bounces+albert-jagnow=email@hidden [mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+albert-jagnow=email@hidden] On Behalf Of Daniel Mejia
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:35 PM
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?
L. Caballero,
2
Store , iTunes, .Mac.
3.
There are many big companies using WO. In Mexico ATT-Alestra, Monterrey Tec (one of the biggest Universities in Latin America), and in other contries BBC in UK, Toyata in Canada, and this that is really nice: http://virtuell.kunstmuseumbasel.ch among others.
The virtual university from Monterrey Tec was considered the second most visited site in Latin America after google, and they are using WO (You can have an idea of how big can an application scale).
4.
It is used, maybe not as much as we the WO developers wanted, but it is used.
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It is very hard to compare, because WebLogic and WebSphere are only App servers, if you want to have the same capacities that yaou have with WO you need to integrate many others frameworks like struts, hibernate (if you don't want to waste your time with EJBs), or use JSF and write more XML for deployment than java code, etc.. Let me put it in this way, WO is like a Porsche and WL and WS are like a good chassis to make your own car.
The downside is, Apples is not used to pamper the WO developers (they are very busy selling ipods) or the WO customers. But you have this great community that helps like any other and a great product :-)
Saludos,
Daniel.
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