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Re: Problem loading the D2W assistant
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Re: Problem loading the D2W assistant


  • Subject: Re: Problem loading the D2W assistant
  • From: David Holt <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:41:47 -0700

That would be really cool, Anjo. I have all of Nathan's current WOWorx videos and I have been amazed at the amount that you can learn from them compared to going over books two or three (or more!!) times. Did you do the Eclipse video for the WOWorx podcasts? If not, is it publicly available? If you do make the webcast, take a look at Jonathan Rentzsch's advice regarding the process he went through in making the ADC core data video tutorial. For example:

"Fragments. For the first time, I tried recording a lot of little segments and then combining them at the end. In contrast, my WebObjects 5 in 15 Minutes screencast was one long shot. It was very frustrating, since one mistake at minute 13 meant starting all over again. The benefit of many-little-segments is that I have more freedom to experiment with wording and what I show. The downside is my perfectionism kicks in. Badly. “Oh, you didn’t move the mouse to the area you were discussing”, I’ll tell myself, “it’s only 30 seconds to reshoot”. Well, I screw up another thing, or I don’t talk loudly enough or I stumble over a word or I think of another thing to mention or I decide not to mention something else since it’s not critical and so on and so on. And that little 30-second re-shoot becomes a 25 minute re-shoot."

http://rentzsch.com/links/adcCoreDataVideoTutorial

Then again, if you read the entire article ("Shocking metric: for each minute of video, it took me more than an hour to create it."), you may NEVER shoot a video tutorial! I have new respect for Nathan's accomplishment! 

David


On 28 Apr 2006, at 7:59 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:

You might be able to use the assistant, I just wanted to say it doesn't work correctly in some cases and breaks in others. In fact, I invested quite some time to generate the needed config entries so that the components and templates show their settable properties in the assistant.

But the assistant is creating a slew of rules and if you mess it up, you might as well start fresh. You can do this with a small project, but not when you have more than a few pages, so I only work with RuleEditor.

And I always look at the source and the .wo, so I see immediately what is supported, but granted, for a simply overview this would be a bit daunting...

I wanted to prepare a webcast with Nathan Walker (we already did one for Eclipse a while back) because this stuff is easily explained when you can show it to people but a pain to write down...

Cheers, Anjo

Am 28.04.2006 um 16:53 schrieb David Holt:

Hi Anjo,

This is the first time I am trying ERD2W and I had the brain wave that the assistant would be a simple way to look at the property level components and the templates that Wonder provides. As you are specifically recommending against using the web assistant, what else can a newbie do to get familiar with the additional features of ERD2W (especially the display components)? I know that with D2W I loaded a model and then went through the options for displaying attributes and relationships to see what worked best. Is there an option to look at display changes on the fly with ERD2W? I am just rereading the WROX book now, so maybe the NetStruxr case study has some recommendations. Thanks,

David


On 27-Apr-06, at 10:12 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

least not link in ERD2W when running these assistants



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