Re: The other IDE
Re: The other IDE
- Subject: Re: The other IDE
- From: Arturo Pérez <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:57:51 -0400
On Aug 12, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Michael Halliday wrote:
The following paragraph that Jeremy wrote is really scarring me ...
I am reading a lot into this statement as to the future of
WebObjects as we know it today.
Michael.
On 12-Aug-06, at 12:46 PM, Jeremy Rosenberg wrote:
... but given that this community is now tasked with developing
the future of WebObjects tools and as a result, the future of
WebObjects, perhaps we should be looking at this possibility.
Here's my speculation. I imagine as a Select member I'll be properly
informed soon enough but reading between the lines of the commentary
I've seen so far.
Apple is leaving the Java Tools business. There is no way they can
compete with the juggernaut that is Eclipse, their core competency is
Cocoa, and, frankly, their heart isn't in it. They will, however,
continue to give Java runtime etc a great deal of support etc, as
they have in the past. In particular, their server strategy is
seriously dependent on Java applications remaining first class
citizens in a Mac OS X environment. In other words, they cannot
offer anything distinctive/compelling to the Java IDE market so they
will let others pick up that slack.
Now, this begs two questions. Exactly what is the runtime
environment for WO? And how will they support a WO toolchain?
I think they will continue to offer WO as its own standalone
application server. The effort to do so is minimal, it allows them
to provide distinctly easier to use etc WO deployment and frankly the
J2EE deployment scenario is a complete mess/farce/what have you.
I have no idea what they'll do in the WO toolchain space. Some lead
me to believe that they are endorsing the WOLips toolchain. I can't
see how they can do that and yet still claim to support WO as a
development choice. OOMA, I'll say that they have committed to
providing tools that will plug-in to an Eclipse environment that will
"compete" with those provided by the WOLips crowd but that they have
suggested people become familiar with that toolchain in order to
prepare for the transition.
my farthings, offered generously
arturo
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