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Re: WOComponents are dead, long live smart tags!
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Re: WOComponents are dead, long live smart tags!


  • Subject: Re: WOComponents are dead, long live smart tags!
  • From: "Jerry W. Walker" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:41:08 -0400

Hi, Pierce,

Your first line reminds me of a comment made by one of my young (early 20-something) colleagues when I first got into WO in the late 90's. After a couple months working with it he asked, "So, how do you like working with WebObjects?".

I mentioned that I preferred the control that we were achieving with Client/Server systems and that this seemed like a throw back to the days of IBM 3270s. He responded, "Client/server... Oh, that's so 1980's!"

Imagine my confusion as I stood there thinking of the 1980s as a still relatively recent period in computing with few negative connotations.

In any case, I respectfully (and without a great deal of deep thought) disagree with your position. I have always appreciated how relatively clean WO left the html template file with the only tag added being a simple <webobjects name=x> tag that our graphics designers had no trouble recognizing or working around.

I still prefer that over the clutter that some of the other web serving technologies leave in their html templates.

In any case, it's a worthwhile subject for discussion and I'm looking forward to other's comments.

Regards,
Jerry

On Aug 12, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Pierce T. Wetter III wrote:



 Starting hopefully a new, productive thread of discussion.

Personally, I find the whole way WO does dynamic tags to be very 1995...

These days, I think WO should have tags more along the lines of what's become more of a standard: legal XHTML tags like the following:

 <span  woid:replace="food">Sample Data</span>

(accompanying WOD)

  food: WOString
  {
    value=session.food; /// hmmm... I must be hungry.
  }

The big problem for the WYSIWYG editors has always been that they have to read two places to figure out what a tag resolves to in HTML terms. Why not have:

<form woid:attributes="hamburger">
  ...stuff
</form>

hamburger : WOForm
{

}

Perhaps rather then whine about WOB dying, we should turn dreamweaver/Golive/That firefox thing into WOB...

What do you all think? Really, it's just a matter of replacing the template parser, and thanks to jadclipse, that stuff all has the source available...


Pierce
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