Re: Marketing WO
Re: Marketing WO
- Subject: Re: Marketing WO
- From: Dov Rosenberg <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:46:17 -0400
- Thread-topic: Marketing WO
When Eclipse released the the 3M2 version for intel Macs the startup
performance improved about 1000%. I'm not sure about anyone else I can't
even think original thoughts in the 2-3 seconds launch time difference
between xcode and Eclipse. I wish that were the bottleneck of my day.
Dov Rosenberg
On 8/14/06 2:19 PM, "Mike Schrag" <email@hidden> wrote:
> I actually just did this timing comparison at WWDC -- on a MBP, Xcode
> takes about 1-2 seconds to open a single project and be up-and-
> running and Eclipse takes about 4-5 seconds to be up-and-running with
> a SINGLE project in it (these are both "second start" times). The
> typical usage of Eclipse is kind of different than Xcode, though, so
> in Eclipse it's common to have a LOT of projects open (and thus
> startup time suffers as a result) -- for instance, in my workspace,
> it's not uncommon that I can have upwards of 50 projects open (wolips
> + wonder + some eclipse plugins + real work stuff + random other
> stuff). First start time, Eclipse does take a larger hit (but so
> does Xcode), and there is likely NO way Eclipse will ever be as fast
> or start as fast as Xcode unless you do something wacky like native
> compile the jar files.
>
> However, that said, I hear TextEdit opens REALLY fast on files --
> Even faster than Xcode! ;)
>
> ms
>
> On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Alan Ward wrote:
>
>>
>> I wouldn't describe myself as a "hard core XCode fan"... I simply
>> won't switch to any java IDE that
>> makes me wait 3 minutes at startup before letting me do what I
>> started it to do :-)
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yes. The number of hard core XCode fans will certainly stay the
>>> same.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Anjo
>>>
>>> Am 14.08.2006 um 19:28 schrieb Ken Anderson:
>>>
>>>> I bet not for long!! :)
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:54 PM, Alan Ward wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. One final thought. Given that Apple is deprecating the
>>>>>> tools, anyone want to guess how many WO developers at Apple use
>>>>>> Xcode for WebObjects? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I do ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>
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