Re: Re: WebObjects Foundation
Re: Re: WebObjects Foundation
- Subject: Re: Re: WebObjects Foundation
- From: "Joe Little" <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:02:49 -0700
I'm unsure if this warrants an "elders" role, but at WWDC and since
I've talked with various people about deployments. In some shape or
form I'll volunteer to lead the rpm/deb/pkg/depot/etc packaging (or
recipes, if license is not permitting) of the jars, wotaskd,
javamonitor, and webobjects adaptor.
I can help collect the info for servlet deployment, but I've never
done it nor wish to use servlets as my deployment engine.
On 8/16/06, Chuck Hill <email@hidden> wrote:
On Aug 16, 2006, at 12:41 AM, email@hidden wrote:
> On Aug 15, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>
>> What we don't need is for most people to sit on the sidelines and
>> wait around for the few to conjure up the future of WebObjects.
>> To get the most people involved, we need to have the lowest
>> barriers to participation possible.
>
> I have been following the discussion today via my Treo, and also
> thinking about the situation we are in. I have a couple of
> suggestions to toss out for discussion:
>
> Despite my assertion from yesterday that we can't form a Foundation
> out of thin air, I do think we need some leadership soon. We are
> already seeing people posting to the list asking what would be
> useful to do and where they should put it, and someone really
> should be designated to answer those questions with some
> consistency. I think we need a very informal Core Team, one that
> doesn't make any major decisions but just helps keep people moving
> in productive directions. Perhaps Project Managers would be a
> better name for it. We will eventually need a real Core Team with
> elections and everything if this gets off the ground, but IMHO
> that's unnecessary overhead at this point.
>
> If people generally think this is a good idea, then maybe we should
> ask for volunteers? We only need 3 or 4 people, I think, since the
> task will be mostly answering procedural questions and giving
> people the confidence that they can move forward on something that
> will benefit the project. I am willing to be one of the members,
> though it seems a bit improper to volunteer when it was my idea. :)
:-) I will also volunteer my time.
> My second suggestion is that I think we should have an area of the
> wiki where people can post a description of what community
> contribution they are working on. It doesn't obligate them to
> produce or else, nor do they have to give a timeframe; it's just
> so we can avoid duplication of effort and people can offer their
> assistance if their task is already being worked on by someone
> else. For example, I would post that I am going to write an
> Eclipse/WOLips tutorial, with a short description of what it will
> cover, so people will know it's being taken care of. If I get busy
> and can't get to it, it's my responsibility to update the Wiki and
> either say it's being delayed, or remove it altogether.
That is a good idea. We are most certainly lacking in direction and
organization at present. We could also list things that need to be
done and ask for volunteers to take on the task.
> Thoughts? I don't want to over-burden us with process, but I also
> know that if people are just milling around with no direction, in
> the end very little actually gets done.
Amen.
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