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Re: WebObjects Foundation


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects Foundation
  • From: Arturo PĂ©rez <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:54:19 -0400

Excellent and amazing comments all.

Having gone against management to use WO and having had to explain many times to the ignorant J2EE/Struts/Hibernate crowd I have one humble suggestion.

Build complete opensource solutions based on WO. For a system with such fantastic ease of use in creating webapplications there is a complete vacuum of turnkey solutions for various things.

Blogging:
Where's a WO-based solution for blogging? We all know we could build one in a few weeks with WO and Wonder. So why isn't there one?


Content Management:
There are so many content management applications out there, where's the opensource WO-based one? (Yeah, I know, GVC just came out).


Project Management?
Bug Tracking?

Anything that needs a database to function properly. Media galleries (video, audio, photo). Inventory/asset management systems. CRMs. PIMs. School information systems (that's what I was working on in my spare time). We need to provide and eat our own dog food. Subsystems even: authentication, authorization, etc. Having watched this list for the last 6-7 years, why do we still get people asking how to make a login app, for chrissake?!

I think when one looks at the software market and can see 50 (admittedly lousy) blogs written using J2EE and none using WO then the conclusion is obvious.

We need to opensource more WO stuff, we need to make a massive WO- SourceForge and then I think we may get some traction akin to what RoR gets.

Wonder is an excellent framework. Now let's make some excellent applications/solutions to really show off what we can do. Then, when people see the things that just cannot be done as well or as easily with other technology, they will really take notice. IMHO, the only reason J2EE has as much momentum as it does is because there are tens/ hundreds of thousands of developers contributing slowly and painfully to it. Can you imagine what a WO-based solution suite would be like if it had that kind of manpower thrown at it?

-arturo

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