Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
- Subject: Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
- From: David Sanchez <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:05:29 -0400
On Aug 28, 2006, at 9:47 AM, email@hidden
wrote:
On Aug 26, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
So, is it possible that in some future (near future), all Apple
official documentation will be updated to WOLips?
I don't think so. Apple *may* point you to WOLips, but it's not
their responsibility to write documentation for 3rd party products.
It's up to the WOLips authors to write that kind of documentation.
I can't agree with this. If the only tools to use the WO framework
are 3rd party (not yet the case, I know, but David's point is valid),
then Apple had better provide some documentation using those tools,
otherwise new users are going to be frustrated by having one source
for the framework and one source for the tools.
I know all the experienced users will have no problem with and will
love the 3rd party tools, but as a new developer it is very
frustrating to try to not only learn a new framework, but then to
have to interpret on-the-fly how to implement the tutorial using
entirely different tools. You don't know if there is something wrong
with your code, or your tool configuration.
To me one of the major initial attractions for new users of WO
***IS*** the Apple-provided tools and documentation. They make things
seem so much simpler, you can have a fully functional proof-of-
concept application without writing ANY code - just follow the D2JC
or D2W wizards then tweak using the assistant. Sure once you start
getting beyond the basics you quickly realize the bugs and
limitations of the tools, but by then you are invested in the
technology and you realize that the true power of WO is not the tools
but the frameworks.
If Apple doesn't provide their own tools in the future (once the
existing ones quit working) or documentation for working with 3rd-
party ones the barrier for even considering WO will be much higher.
As many here have rightly pointed out regarding the WO community, we
need less of "somebody needs to do X" and more "Here's a solution for
X". So here's my commitment: Once I can get my issue with D2JC
figured out (see awakeFromInsertion thread), I will begin re-
implementing the exercises from WO Desktop Applications examples
using WOlips and put them on the Wiki.
Hello!
That would be REALLY excellent for new comers. I do not see how to
make D2JC, or WO JC using WOLips.
David Sanchez
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