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Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)
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Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)


  • Subject: Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)
  • From: Q <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:15:23 +1000


On 28/08/2006, at 10:47 PM, Dana Kashubeck wrote:

Chuck Hill wrote:
On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:04 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote:

WO in Java or Objective-C? What would be most sensible going forward?


Given that there is a lot of enterprise Java code out there that WO in Java can and does take advantage of (e.g. as it now uses JDBC to replace the need for custom adaptors). Given that WO in Objective-C would require adaptors to be written for all the required databases (this was a sticking point somewhat for WO when it was in Objective-C)

Of course, I know that Objective-C is a much more powerful language (with categories and the like) but Java does have some things going for it as well (e.g. portability). Also if WO went back to Objective-C it could once again use Apple's development tools, whereas it would not be possible to use all the great Java functionality in Eclipse.

Personally, I feel that given all the improvements (and yes there were some steps backwards) that Apple has made to WO (especially EOF) since WO4.5 and Java's enterprise connections (and recent language improvements) and ability to deploy in Servlet containers etc) that it would be best to stay with WO in Java (e.g. if implementing a new open source WO).
I quite like Objective-C as a language. I much prefer it to Java. That said, moving WO back to Obj-C is nothing something I would be in favour of. There are just too many 3rd party libraries in Java.

I definitely see your points. It would be nice to take advantage of all the work that's already been done and not reinvent the wheel. But, if you have a large library of Cocoa/EOF apps, it is really nice to be able to use the same frameworks in your WO applications. I know, I know: we're in the great minority. Still, to me at least, it would be really cool to even get the Java code and move it "backwards".

There is always GnustepWeb/SOPE:x and AJRDatabase/GDL2 if you must have that Obj-C goodness. It's not WO, but it's close.


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