Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)
Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)
- Subject: Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)
- From: Q <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:15:23 +1000
On 28/08/2006, at 10:47 PM, Dana Kashubeck wrote:
Chuck Hill wrote:
On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:04 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote:
WO in Java or Objective-C? What would be most sensible going
forward?
Given that there is a lot of enterprise Java code out there that
WO in Java can and does take advantage of (e.g. as it now uses
JDBC to replace the need for custom adaptors). Given that WO in
Objective-C would require adaptors to be written for all the
required databases (this was a sticking point somewhat for WO
when it was in Objective-C)
Of course, I know that Objective-C is a much more powerful
language (with categories and the like) but Java does have some
things going for it as well (e.g. portability). Also if WO went
back to Objective-C it could once again use Apple's development
tools, whereas it would not be possible to use all the great Java
functionality in Eclipse.
Personally, I feel that given all the improvements (and yes there
were some steps backwards) that Apple has made to WO (especially
EOF) since WO4.5 and Java's enterprise connections (and recent
language improvements) and ability to deploy in Servlet
containers etc) that it would be best to stay with WO in Java
(e.g. if implementing a new open source WO).
I quite like Objective-C as a language. I much prefer it to
Java. That said, moving WO back to Obj-C is nothing something I
would be in favour of. There are just too many 3rd party
libraries in Java.
I definitely see your points. It would be nice to take advantage
of all the work that's already been done and not reinvent the
wheel. But, if you have a large library of Cocoa/EOF apps, it is
really nice to be able to use the same frameworks in your WO
applications. I know, I know: we're in the great minority. Still,
to me at least, it would be really cool to even get the Java code
and move it "backwards".
There is always GnustepWeb/SOPE:x and AJRDatabase/GDL2 if you must
have that Obj-C goodness. It's not WO, but it's close.
--
Seeya...Q
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