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  • Subject: Re: a two simple question... :) please participate!
  • From: Dev WO <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:59:21 +0100

they are entirely table based layouts, they load fast and are extremely easy to mantain. and works same on every browser without contitional comments.

Why switch to hand written CSS ?? tecnology must simplify.... CSS not.

What you think about?
I've never seen a WYSIWYG tool that generate valid (X)HTML when you want to do something really nice and flexible. You always have to edit the generated code anyway. Mostly because I'm a standard compliant psychopath;)

do you think that these websites are not nice?
By nice I mean "nicely structured";)
In fact if you go full CSS, you can create HTML templates that only relie on structured information like menu, main title, 2nd level titles, submenu, etc and not left column, right column, header, etc.
It may looks pretty much the same as you can usually make a correct rendering with table layout, but the HTML template doesn't represente the structure of your system.
For example, if you have a full css well structured content, you can even use the same HTML template for different website but make the UI completely different, like changing a column to a row, etc...only with one CSS file:)
That also allows you to offer your user with different redering, like making a simple CSS with only black on white, or anything else.

It is faster for us to directly code by hand than having to correct GoLive or Dreamweaver code.

One last thing to consider is people with disabilities... table layout is just like scramble content for them...

ok, you are right now, and... a question ... how to test sites for disabiliies ??
I think the best is to read:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/

basically, if you want accessibility you need:
-to be able to browse the site without a mouse (keyboard navigation)
-with Javascript off you must be able to use the site
-your page must be valid HTML and CSS

the validator for HTML and CSS are:
http://validator.w3.org/
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

for example, your page
http://www.borgodicolloredo.com/eng/home/index.php
has 82 errors;) quite a few are du to the & not being escaped to &amp; in a hyperlink.


There are 3 level of accessibility, A, AA and AAA.
the A is very easy as it doesn't require your page to be valid:)
But one last thing to consider: there's an European low that require every public or assimilated to ba at least A with a AA target.
In UK, every person can sue every website (public or private) if it is not accessible! hopefully for the UK websites, non one actually ever sue...for now.
In US every government website has to be Section 508 compliant (pretty much A with a couple AA stuff).


Last thing:) network communication is the only media that could guarantee equity, but it requires us to do "more":)

Xavier


Hope this give you some clues;)

thanks amedeo

Xavier

Thanks
AMEDEO
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