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  • Subject: Re: Thanks and Comments
  • From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:43:20 -0500

On 22-Mar-06, at 7:05 PM, Jeffrey Pearson wrote:

Just a quick note. I've been a lurker on this list for quite a while under a different email address. I finally joined with this address because I wasn't seeing a lot of traffic that could help me learn WebObjects.

I finally decided Monday to join under my personal address so I could safely post.

i just wanted to thank you all for the helpful replies. I am hoping that by exposing my own ignorance to all of you, it can help others following me. Again, thanks to all of you for bearing with my ignorant questions and posting very informative replies.

I DO have most of the documentation that I can find for WebObjects. I have been pouring over them over the past bit (its actually been close to 6 months). I see a lot of docs that will be useful once the initial learning hurdle is overcome. The closest thing to a true beginner document I have found is the WebObjects for Windows Developers book. I also have the Practical Webobjects book, but again, as others have mentioned, it is not for beginners.

Welcome Jeffrey,

For beginners, I always recommend the Apple Web Applications Tutorial [1] and Joshua Markers Visual Quick Pro Guide [2] (although I have some reservations [3]).

I found the WOAK (WebObjects Application Construction Kit) book [4] very helpful when I was starting, though it is now out of print and a little out of date (which can be a little tough if you get hung up on tools not being exactly as they are described).

But I have to say, I've always found the best way to learn anything is to jump in and try something. My justification is that I learn far more from making really huge ugly stupid mistakes than I do from trying to avoid making really huge ugly stupid mistakes.

Again, welcome and good luck.

[1] <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/WebObjects/ Web_Applications/index.html>
[2] <http://www.peachpit.com/title/032111549X6>
[3] <http://david.codeferous.com/?p=198>
[4] <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0672320746>


OH, and I just read your latest email. Xcode == Targets == Evil.

I, like Chuck, also prefer Eclipse, though I might not wish it on a complete beginner unless I was around to mentor.

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;david

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David LeBer
Codeferous Software
'co-defer-ous' adj. producing or containing code
site:   http://www.codeferous.com
blog: http://david.codeferous.com




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