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Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)
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Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)


  • Subject: Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)
  • From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:07:43 -0700


On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:04 AM, Georg Tuparev wrote:


On Aug 28, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

Personally, I feel that given all the improvements (and yes there were some steps backwards) that Apple has made to WO (especially EOF) since WO4.5 and Java's enterprise connections (and recent language improvements) and ability to deploy in Servlet containers etc) that it would be best to stay with WO in Java (e.g. if implementing a new open source WO).

I quite like Objective-C as a language. I much prefer it to Java. That said, moving WO back to Obj-C is nothing something I would be in favour of. There are just too many 3rd party libraries in Java.

Chuck,

And how would you react if I we take into account that:
- most of us are more productive in ObjC

Yes, I was. At least on a line by line basis. But if I need a rules engine, or an inverted index (Lucene) functionality, or a PDF library, chances are that I will be more productive in Java as I can just grab a well documented library.



- there are so many new cocoa technologies that we could use (bindings, core graphics, ...)

One of the advantages of WO / Java is that it is cross platform. Now, moving to Eclipse based tools, it is more cross platform than it was looking recently. Tying it to Cocoa technologies would be a step backward as a web platform. That said, I would love to see EOF back in Obj-C for Cocoa applications!



- many of us have large volumes of ObjC code

Still preferring Java?

As an overall more productive environment, yes. As a language and core API, never!


Chuck

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