Re: Any tutorials on using direct actions and/or component actions with AJAX
Re: Any tutorials on using direct actions and/or component actions with AJAX
- Subject: Re: Any tutorials on using direct actions and/or component actions with AJAX
- From: Christopher Roach <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:48:55 -0500
Hi Chuck,
Thanks for the input, but I thought I should clarify my reasons for
wanting to learn Ajax and WO sans libraries and for not using Project
Wonder in my apps. My reason for wanting to learn how to do the Ajax
and WO stuff by hand is that I am brand new to both and I like to
learn how things work before I feel comforable using them. I agree
that to get things done I need to be using a well tested/established
set of libraries and I will be doing so in my professional work, but
in my spare time I want to learn how it all ticks behind the magic.
Just like when I learned to program, I learned my first language and
used it for two years while I worked my way through a pair of
undergrad and grad classes in compiler construction and language
design. Once I had written my first language I felt like I understood
programming in general better, so I would like to do the same with MVC
based web frameworks and Ajax.
Now, as for why I'm not using Project Wonder, well that's not really
my choice. The company I work for has a very mature library for Ajax
that they are using for all of their projects and I have to use that
in my day-to-day development.
So, I hope that clears up why I'm not using Wonder (I would if I
could) and why I want to learn everything at the lowest level.
Again, thanks for all your input, it has been very helpful.
Christopher Roach
On Dec 27, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
wrote:
On Dec 27, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Christopher Roach wrote:
Hi Jean Pierre,
I looked into Project Wonder at one time, but we can't use it in-
house for our work
I will point out that this is probably the worst possible decision
you can make with respect to using WO. Given the very, very liberal
license (use whatever you want, however you want) and the
availability of source, there is no sane reason to not use Wonder.
Without Wonder you condemn your project to unfixed bugs in WO and a
MASSIVE amount of code that will need to be written. Wonder saves
time and produces better code each and every day that you use it.
, so I've mainly stayed away from it for that reason. Also, what
I'm really looking for are some simple examples that would show me
how to do everything from scratch (I.e., no Javascript libraries or
WO libraries) so that I can get a good feel for how these
technologies work together before using a library for my day-to-day
work.
While I applaud your desire to know how things work, just use the
Ajax framework from Wonder. It makes Ajax work the WO way. Mike et
al put a TON of "under the covers" work into this. You really don't
want to have to duplicate that level of knowledge and
understanding. And if you don't, what you come up with will be
substandard. I don't see any business value in that. You can learn
how things works gradually, later as you need to integrate third
party Ajax things into your project (and hopefully into Wonder).
Chuck
You wouldn't happen to know of any good resources that would fit
that bill would you?
Thanks for the suggestion though, I really appreciate it.
Christopher Roach
On Dec 27, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Jean Pierre Malrieu
<email@hidden> wrote:
Project Wonder provides a very good integration of AJAX
(scriptaculous + prototype) with WebObjects.
To get started, see what is available:
http://www.mdimension.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/AjaxExample.woa
Then download source code for the Ajax examples from mdimension
site and take a look at how the examples are implemented.
That should get you started.
JPM
Hey all,
I was wondering if anyone knew of any tutorials or simple
examples of
how to use AJAX with WebObjects. From what I've read so far, it
looks
like direct actions will be used if you want to do any type of AJAX
work, but I've also seen mention of project Wonder using component
actions to implement its AJAX components and I would love it if I
could find a simple tutorial that showed how to do this.
Thanks for any input you can give me.
Cheers,
Christoper
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