Re: WOBuilder in the future of WO?
Re: WOBuilder in the future of WO?
- Subject: Re: WOBuilder in the future of WO?
- From: Miguel Arroz <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:40:19 +0000
Hi!
True. Chuck told me some time ago to jump to Eclipse but I was not
convinced. I preferred lightweight, fast and responsive (and simple!)
xCode compared to the slow, huge, complicated Eclipse. But then I
started a project with someone who also liked Eclipse and I decided
to give it a try. Now, I don't know how could I ever write a line of
Java code without it. Eclipse simply rules. And it's very well done.
I also started to write a WOBuilder replacement (like everyone
else :P and like almost everyone else, I did not have time to do it)
and while doing that, I found out the very good architecture that
sustains Eclipse and all it's power.
So, don't be afraid. Jump to Eclipse today. Every day you are not
using Eclipse, you are coding (and debugging) a lot slower than you
could do. I just recommend... buy another Gig of RAM is possible! :)
Yours
Miguel Arroz
On 2007/01/22, at 19:31, Chuck Hill wrote:
I don't recall of _anyone_ every wanting to go back once they
understood enough of Eclipse (figure on a mostly productive week).
Well, maybe other than Georg.... :-P
Chuck
On Jan 22, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Ken Anderson wrote:
Honestly, for me, productivity went forward by leaps and bounds
when I switched to Eclipse/WOLips. I don't know about anyone
else, but I found that debugging WO (especially with lots of
frameworks) with xcode was extremely painful, requiring lots of
recompiles and manual references. Maybe I was doing something
wrong, but in Eclipse, it 'just works'.
I'll never go back!
Ken
On Jan 22, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Jonathan Miller wrote:
Hi,
I've taken the plunge (started using Eclipse) and it is really
not that bad at all. Matter of fact the only issue that I saw
that is a real problem, is it does not out of the box compile
applications for SSDD/WAR correctly. It took someone from the
list to help me get this going. Other than that, I see no reason
to go back to XCode. Eclipse can be modified to add code
completion support for not only HTML, but CSS and JavaScript
too. So, in many ways it is a better web page design tool than
WOBuilder. Have a look at www.aptana.com
re: Who has the time? Unfortunately (fortunately?), I believe
this profession requires you to learn new things all the time and
this is just one more instance of it.
BR
Jon
I keep hearing the phrase's "once I converted my projects" and "once
I got use to Eclipse/WOLips." That's a really big problem for a lot
of us who REALLY DON'T HAVE THE TIME!
We don't have the month or more to figure out and acclimate
ourselves
to Eclipse/WOLips and painstakingly convert all of our projects and
frameworks (which I'm still fighting with). Combine this with the
fact that now I'll be editing my HTML and WOD files by hand and
we're
talking a serious loss of productivity. (and time... and money...)
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