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Re: WOBuilder Replacement
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Re: WOBuilder Replacement


  • Subject: Re: WOBuilder Replacement
  • From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 20:58:05 -0700


On Jul 4, 2007, at 8:45 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

Stateless is a little more work to implement than stateful I guess,

A little.


however it does have some advantages AFAIK (please correct me if I am wrong) such as
- Ready to use in stateless pages since stateless pages/components can only contain stateless components,
- Lower memory usage, one component instance typically, and maybe just a couple in certain scenarios, it being shared across pages

Correct.


Is there any other advantages for stateless? Does it help app speed?

Yes, if no other way then by reducing garbage collection and instantiation time.



I have almost always created stateless nonsynchronizing components after I first watched the WWDC sessions on reusable components. Is striving for stateless overrated nowadays given the speed and memory of our servers?

If a component can be made stateless, it should. But you can do some things more easily (or just can, period) with stateful components.


Chuck



Kieran

On Jul 4, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

Stateful NonSynchronized Reusable Components are pretty useful as well.


On Jul 4, 2007, at 7:36 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

Topic = "Stateless NonSynchronized Reusable Components" ........ these make life easier and easier

On Jul 4, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


On Jul 4, 2007, at 11:46 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

3. Large, convoluted, table based layouts are very difficult to visualize in a text only view. This is pretty obvious, but since I've been using css instead of tables and breaking things into components for my own stuff forever, I've not confronted it head-on before. So I think using the component editor actually encourages you to write better components.

We can hope. I have been disturbed to see how little use many WO developers make of the power of components. It should be their bread and butter, not some advanced technique.

Topic for WOWODC 2008 ? :-)

In fact that is one of the topics I am considering.

Chuck

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References: 
 >WOBuilder Replacement (From: Gino Pacitti <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOBuilder Replacement (From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOBuilder Replacement (From: David LeBer <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOBuilder Replacement (From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOBuilder Replacement (From: Pascal Robert <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOBuilder Replacement (From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOBuilder Replacement (From: Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOBuilder Replacement (From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOBuilder Replacement (From: Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden>)

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