Re: WOBuilder Replacement
Re: WOBuilder Replacement
- Subject: Re: WOBuilder Replacement
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:36:02 -0700
On Jul 6, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Louis Demers wrote:
On 6-Jul-07, at 16:33 , Andrew Lindesay wrote:
Hello Janine;
The only feature of WOBuilder that I consider important is the one
that helps you to visualize what your component will look like when
it's rendered. WOBuilder always did a lousy job of this, especially
It's interesting; we all have quite different ways of working with
components which probably illustrates different ways of thinking.
I really do like Mike's component editor, but to augment it, I
would also enjoy the visual modeller in WOB. I really do not feel
at all like I need a full render of the page with data or anything
-- what WOB does is perfect for my use. It's really a logical
view for making bindings. I'd love to have the time for such an
undertaking. :-/
You expressed exactly what I was trying to say. Indeed, I believe
that the graphical presentation must not aim at the aesthetics of
the page/component but rather it's structure along with a decent
inspector for the available bindings. The aesthetics of the
presentation should be done through CSS and could be handed off to
other tools like CSSEdit and the like.
In a sense, couldn't it be structured like the eomodeler in
eclipse ? A tree showing the structure and some inspector specific
to the webobject tags being edited ?
Two thoughts:
1. If you have clean, well formatted HTML the structure is usually
evident. Even with larger forms and tables, the ability to collapse
sections can still make it easy to see. Or, like Mike posted, you
can use the Outline view. Yes, Eclipse is amazing.
2. There is already an inspector (of sorts) for the WO tag being
edited. Click on the tag in the HTML and the WOD portion
automatically scrolls to the definition in the WOD. Ctrl-space in
the definition to see all bindings ( foo =). Adding an inspector is
probably not too much work, though perhaps of little benefit once you
have gotten used to auto-complete.
So it is not really too far off what you want with no real need for a
full blown WO Builder.
Chuck
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