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Re: Apple's Support of WebObjects
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Re: Apple's Support of WebObjects


  • Subject: Re: Apple's Support of WebObjects
  • From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:12:50 -0400

I like the apple tools. I know WOLips and project WOnder exist for eclipse but I do not like these tools much.
I agree with Kieran completely, but for people who just don't like Eclipse/WOLips (compared to Xcode, specifically), what /exactly/ is it that you don't like?

Note #1: This is NOT a question about WOBuilder, it's specifically an Xcode vs Eclipse question.

Note #2: This is NOT intended to start a religious war, rather I'm asking because it's possible we can fix some of the things people don't like.

Note #3: This is in no way a commitment to fix that which you hate, but just an informal poll for my own curiosity.

Note #4: Seriously, this is NOT a question about WOBuilder.

The things I can think of offhand:

1. Not as snappy as Xcode -- yes, i agree, but it's doing WAY more ... probably not easily fixable, unless you can point to SPECIFIC things that are slow.

2. No support for logical model vs physical model of project files -- Eclipse 3.2 DOES have a logical model API, but we're not currently using it in WOLips (and I haven't looked at how to yet). This is on the Perpetually Increasing List of Things To Do (TM).

3. User Interface doesn't "feel OS Xish" -- This is leveled a lot, but I'm REALLY curious to find out SPECIFICS of what people mean by it. One of the most noticeable ones is that tabs don't look like aqua tabs -- this is also on my list, but potentially harder to change because Eclipse tabs can do more than aqua tabs. What else is wonky?

4. You do Cocoa also and you don't want two IDE's -- Not much we can do here.

Are there other specific complaints?

ms

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