Re: Eclipse Version to Download
Re: Eclipse Version to Download
- Subject: Re: Eclipse Version to Download
- From: Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:42:12 -0800
Hi Mike et al.,
Where do you get Eclipse 3.3.2 for Leopard? Link please?
What is the difference between: Eclipse IDE for Java Developers ,
Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers, and Eclipse Classic?
Which one most closely resembles XCode?
Can you do a mass find/replace in Eclipse like in XCode?
Thanks.
With Kind Regards,
Dennis Gaastra, M.B.A.[sfu.ca], B.Sc.[ubc.ca]
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.
On 16-Nov-07, at 4:27 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
I've been running 3.3.1.1 under Leopard and WO 5.4 for a couple
of weeks and have never experienced an Eclipse crash. I must not
have done whatever triggers the crash.
Then you're not using the Open Type (cmd-shift-t) dialog or the
Open Resource (cmd-shift-r) dialog, which really should be in every
Eclipse user's workflow, so if you're getting the most out of
Eclipse, it should be crashing :) . I consider this a critical
path failure. For me it made Eclipse almost unusable. If you're
on Leopard I would never recommend that you use anything less than
3.3.2 stream maintenance build. This is just how it goes, though.
Leopard's the new kid on the block and it's obviously out-of-sync
with the Eclipse release cycle.
But I wonder whether using a very early 3.3.2 version would be
any more stable than 3.3.1.1.
Yes.
Moving to Eclipse from Xcode is a big enough challenge without
adding potential Eclipse instability to the mix.
Given that 3.3.1.1 itself is proven to be unstable, the 3.3.2
honestly can't get any worse. I've also been on the 3.3.2
maintenance build since it came out without any noticeable issues.
Many people migrating from Xcode to Eclipse might appreciate a
stable Eclipse at the expense of being able to use some of the
latest WOLips features.
If you're moving from Xcode to Eclipse on Tiger, this is much less
of an issue, because you can just use 3.3.1.1 -- an official
build. If you're moving from Xcode to Eclipse on Leopard, it's
(obviously) a slightly rougher path.
I've found the discussions of various problems with Eclipse,
WOLips, Wonder, and WO 5.4 to be pretty difficult to navigate. A
table such as the following might really be helpful because it
seems that the stable Eclipse and WOLips versions depend on the
Mac OS X, Wonder, and WO versions being used:
I agree ... I think the version story was pretty clear on Tiger
(stable vs nightly), but with the introduction of Leopard into the
mix along with the loss of EOGenerator, this dramatically increases
the number of permutations.
Recommended Stable Versions
WO Mac OS X Wonder Eclipse WOLips
5.4 10.5 none ?? ??
5.4 10.5 ?? ?? ??
5.3 10.4 none ?? ??
5.3 10.4 ?? ?? ??
Recommended Stable Versions
WO Mac OS X Wonder Eclipse WOLips EOGenerator
5.4 10.5 latest (... within the last week or 2) 3.3.2 (unreleased)
nightly JavaEOGenerator or Velocity EOGenerator
5.4 10.5 latest (... within the last week or 2) 3.2 (untested)
stable JavaEOGenerator
5.3 10.5 any (latest always recommended) 3.3.2 (unreleased)
nightly JavaEOGenerator or Velocity EOGenerator
5.3 10.5 any (latest always recommended) 3.2 (untested) stable
JavaEOGenerator
5.3 10.4 any (latest always recommended) 3.3.1.1 nightly
JavaEOGenerator, Velocity EOGenerator, or Rubicode EOGenerator
5.3 10.4 any (latest always recommended) 3.2 stable
JavaEOGenerator, Velocity EOGenerator, or Rubicode EOGenerator
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