Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
- Subject: Re: Criticism of Java Persistence Frameworks Blog Post
- From: Guido Neitzer <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:00:16 -0700
I wasn't really impressed by that article. It sounded like someone
complaining about all persistence frameworks at the same time without
really understanding even the first one he ever used ... or he
wouldn't write:
"For example, SQL is a very dynamic language that you can’t state it
with objects. What we see is QUERY, JOIN, WHERE objects in ORM
frameworks to re-implement SQL again in object world. We made this
mistake in our first ORM framework but corrected in second one."
I didn't read it all that thoroughly as I got the impression that
someone is whining about things he did do wrong in the first quarter
of the article. I might be wrong about that, but definitely he wasn't
able to show his understanding of the difference of all the tools out
there. And complaining about all of them at the same time - at least
you should be able to show the differences.
cug
On 05.12.2008, at 14:47, David Holt wrote:
Hi Anjo,
I thought the interesting part is that most of the authors "pitfalls
of Java Persistence" are addressed by WebObjects, DirectToWeb, EOF
and WOnder. What's interesting is that he says he was using it in
2000 and then wandered off into the desert creating his own
persistence layer(s) when he had already had exposure to a good
solution! Maybe that's a typical story that happened as WO moved
from NeXT to Apple, but as someone who got to WebObjects much later,
from the so-called easy development environment of PHP, I wish I'd
been using WO in 2000 and not spending 3 or 4 years heading towards
a relative dead end.
David
On 5-Dec-08, at 1:18 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Am 05.12.2008 um 18:38 schrieb Chuck Hill:
http://fromapitosolution.blogspot.com/2008/12/criticism-of-java-persistence.html
WebObjects gets mentioned twice. Might be an interesting read if
you have spare time.
Where exactly is the interesting part? Or is it because I have no
spare time?
Cheers, Anjo
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