Re: Totally New
Re: Totally New
- Subject: Re: Totally New
- From: Miguel Arroz <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:11:25 +0000
Hi!
On 2008/11/20, at 13:36, Bob Gordon wrote:
Hello,
I have been reading about WebObjects, and decided it was worth
looking into further.
That's a smart decision. :) WO looks old-school and hard to learn,
but it's actually a very strong framework, very well conceived, and it
easily handles all the modern needs. Also, it's quite extensible.
Where to begin?
As Pascal said, there is some lack of introduction books.
Nevertheless, you can find some tutorials on the WO Community site,
including some videocasts (most of them with a very strong french
accent... ;) ).
There are two books I recommend:
<http://www.amazon.com/Professional-WebObjects-Java-Thomas-Termini/dp/1861004311/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227192799&sr=8-10
> - This book is out of print, so it might be hard to find. The first
chapters of this book are good to start understanding how to do some
basic stuff. Don't forget the Apple tools were deprecated, so all the
screenshots on that book are outdated. Eclipse rules now.
<http://www.amazon.com/Practical-WebObjects-Charles-Hill/dp/1590592964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1227193017&sr=8-1
> - Also known as the Chuck's book (which is unfair, it's Sacha's
book too!). This is an advanced book, that describes some stuff you
should know, some best practices, etc. I read the book in my early WO
days, and I didn't get most of the stuff at that first reading. Even
so, it was really important because later, when I hit a problem, I
remembered "hey, I read about this before", and I went to the book, re-
read the pages I needed and it would make perfect sense then.
To start working, you'll need Eclipse and the WOLips plugin (and
WebObjects, of course, that comes in the xCode DMG or DVD).
Also, there is an excellent set of frameworks, called Project
Wonder, that contain many, many added functionality to WO, solves some
WO problems in a nice way, add AJAX support in a very easy to use and
smart way, database migrations, etc. I recommend you to start using
Wonder from the beginning, because it will prevent some problems
you'll definitely face, like deadlocks, etc.
Are new projects being done with WebObjects (is there a future)?
Well, there are some cools guys out there that are making a really
nice survey application in WebObjects... ;) Check my signature. Yes,
shameless plug, I know. Besides that, Apple itself runs on WO. They
have the popular Apple Store, iTunes Store and Mobile Me (formely
known as .Mac) services all running in WO (Mobile Me is WO in the
backend, and SproutsCore in the frontend, in a very interesting
example of how WO can be integrated with other stuff). But they also
have dozens of internal applications (and some smaller public
applications as well, like Radar's public interface for bug reports)
all made in WebObjects.
Any other suggestions?
Patiente, a lot of it. WO is not something you can learn in a few
weeks or even months. It takes years to fully dominate the framework.
But in my opinion it's well worth the effort. For me, the best thing
about WO is the fact that you can create really complex applications
that remain manageable without driving the developers crazy.
Yours
Miguel Arroz
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http://www.survs.com
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