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Re: Getters without the "get" part
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Re: Getters without the "get" part


  • Subject: Re: Getters without the "get" part
  • From: Sacha Michel Mallais <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:47:10 -0700

On Mar 31, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Hugi Thordarson wrote:

Heh - and while we're at it, let's replace NSArray with ArrayList, NSDictionary with HashMap and NSSet with .... well, some of those gazillion java collection classes....

This already should have happened. Once you get a firm grasp of the Java Collections API, it's design, intention and power, NSArray and it's company will make you want to puke. I actually thought that WO would move in this direction by first making NSArray implement List, and do all the similar stuff, then depreciate Foundation collections, and the finally get rid of them. Well, maybe that still is the intention, but it sure is slow.

Agreed. Foundation collections are an embarrassing relic.


Unfortunately, the standard Java collection classes (JCC) gloss over an important aspect of collection classes: mutability vs. immutability. EOF requires the latter for all attributes, so switching to JCC in EOF would be dangerous, and, IMHO, foolish.

AFAIK, the only benefit to using standard JCC is to be more "standard" Java... something I'd like but am willing live without in order to gain the benefit of EOF.

Furthermore, IMHO, the standard JCC are more embarrassing than the WO ones. How many redesigns have the standard JCC had? How many redesigns have the WO ones had? Certainly the WO design has stood the test of time, and the Java ones have not. And we still have Liskov-violating crap like java.util.Properties.


sacha


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