Re: WO alternatives
Re: WO alternatives
- Subject: Re: WO alternatives
- From: Ramsey Lee Gurley <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:38:10 -0400
I say this with the utmost respect of the work put into the open
source ORM frameworks out there, but if I were to look at tech outside
of WO, it would probably be something other than a "me too" ORM
framework. I can't say I've looked much, but I've yet to find
anything outside of WO that is remotely comparable to the D2W style of
programming.
That said, so far there is at least one other platform I have found
truly interesting outside of WO. I will probably look into XRX at
some point when I have time. It sounds very elegant in the fact that
there's no deconstruction of objects necessitated by the use of a
relational database. The database IS xml. No ORM required :) Plus, I
would imagine that opens up a whole new class of patterns not
available in typical ORM development. For instance, XSDs can declare
free standing attributes that can attach to any element. With a
relational db, how would you do this? Add an optional column on every
table in your database for every one of those attributes? I can also
see how XPath could be quite similar to KVC, and XSLTs could stand in
for WOComponents. If XSLT is capable of doing something like a
WOSwitchComponent and WOComponentContent, then I could see at least
the potential to improve on WO rather than try to clone it...
again. :) Plus, XSLT looks to have pretty good support client side...
it would be pretty awesome if the client processor did most of the
page processing while the server could just serve data and do data
validation on input.
I'm sure there's a lot more to it, but it just sounds really
interesting to me. However, I'm not one to fret over the future of
WO, so I guess I'm just posting to see if any of you WO guys have
played with XRX and/or eXist-db? ;)
Ramsey
On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Daniel Mejia wrote:
Chuck,
First of all let me tell you that I have invested many years in WO,
I have developed many systems with less bugs and much faster than
with any other platform that I know. I´m very happy with the product
and with the support that you and many other people provides, that
is much better than the "professional support" from many companies,
but after many discussions in our company we have decided to look
for alternatives. There are many reasons for this decision , many of
them discussed for other people in previous posts. We will continue
developing with WO, but we think that is better for us and our
customers to try to find an alternative at this time.
We are evaluating SEAM from jBoss, Liftweb and Spring Web Flow. My
question was with the idea to include in this evaluation any
framework that the WO people recomend.
Saludos,
Daniel.
On 08/10/2009, at 06:43 p.m., Chuck Hill wrote:
On Oct 8, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Daniel Mejia wrote:
Hi all,
If you have to choose another framework for Web Development ,
different than WO, what could be your selection?
We are looking for alternatives and I would like to know if
somebody knows something close to WO...
If we knew something close to WO, do you think we would be reading
this list? It is not the road map and clear communication from
Apple that keeps us here.
Chuck
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overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific
problems.
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