Re: WO alternatives
Re: WO alternatives
- Subject: Re: WO alternatives
- From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:32:55 -0400
Ok, all innovations from the last 5 years come from Wonder, so I
don't care if WO is open sourced or not, because I know innovations
and bug fixes will come from Wonder, not from Apple. In fact, it's
almost easier to sell WO by talking of Wonder, because you can say
"Ok, so the core frameworks are not open source, but third parties
frameworks extend it so much that's almost open source". And looking
at the surveys results, I think a lot of the community would drop
off WO if Wonder and WOLips didn't exist.
Exactly. What has Apple done for you lately? By lately, I mean since
2005? We got WO 5.4. If you used Wonder already, this wasn't exactly a
world-changing event. People are acting like Apple treated us like a
top-tier developer community and all of a sudden yanked the rug out
from under us. We decided years ago that we weren't going to wait for
Apple to give us anything for WebObjects, and I think we've added some
pretty cool features into Wonder (other folks, too, I'm just obviously
Wonder-biased :) ).
If Apple decided to NEVER ship another WebObjects version, how would
your life be different? You know what would happen if WO had shipped
on Snow Leopard? I would have continued to deploy my apps with WO 5.3
embedded, I would have replaced Monitor and wotaskd with Wonder's
version, and I would have replaced mod_WebObjects with Wonder's
version. In that sense, it's actually kind of convenient that WO
didn't ship on Snow Leopard, because we have a clean slate and don't
have to cleanup the one that shipped.
Show me a WO/EOF bug we can't figure out how to fix in Wonder and I'll
get nervous. Until then, I'm going to continue to use one of the best
frameworks that's ever been made.
ms
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