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Re: WO alternatives


  • Subject: Re: WO alternatives
  • From: Luke Holton <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:36:22 -0700 (MST)

All,

Has anyone any experience/comments on a Tapestry / Cayenne combination?

Regards,

Luke Holton

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On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Joe Little wrote:

Yes, I find Grails or more specifically GORM to be the closest
analogy. Very Rails inspired, but where it differs, it feels just like
WO. I just hate JSP/GSP presentation layer, so GRAILS in the end
doesn't float my boat.

LiftWeb is painful to the eyes. Scala is great, LiftWeb just won't
gain traction with my brain.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Alexis Tual <email@hidden> wrote:
Le 9 oct. 09 ? 15:28, Pascal Robert a ?crit :


Le 09-10-09 ? 08:00, Q a ?crit :


On 09/10/2009, at 9:07 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

I'm wondering if we can just migrate and adapt Wonder on top of a
project like GETobjects so that we can have a exit point, just in case...

GETObjects, not likely, it's quite different, not API compatible, and not as complete. You would be giving up a lot you probably take for granted right now, and gaining stuff you probably already solved in other ways.

What's the intended end point? Having something that is fully opensource,
or having a stack that won't live or die by apple's hand?

Door #2. Ok, all innovations from the last 5 years come from Wonder, so I don't care if WO is open sourced or not, because I know innovations and bug fixes will come from Wonder, not from Apple. In fact, it's almost easier to sell WO by talking of Wonder, because you can say "Ok, so the core frameworks are not open source, but third parties frameworks extend it so much that's almost open source". And looking at the surveys results, I think a lot of the community would drop off WO if Wonder and WOLips didn't exist.

Couldn't agree more ! And by the way jar frameworks and maven support add a lot of credibility to the framework too.




GETobjects needs some work, but has potential if you couldn't use WO.

http://www.getobjects.org

On 09/10/2009, at 9:04 AM, Daniel Mejia wrote:

Hi all,

If you have to choose another framework for Web Development ,
different than WO, what could be your selection?

We're likely to use Grails which is a "full stack" framework. We've been using Wicket as a presentation framework but i wouldn't recommend it to WO users or Cocoa lovers as it's like writing Swing code. We've also experienced Cayenne which is also very similar to EOF.

Regards,

Alex.


We are looking for alternatives and I would like to know if somebody knows something close to WO...

Regards,

Daniel.




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