Re: 2009 surveys results
Re: 2009 surveys results
- Subject: Re: 2009 surveys results
- From: Ken Foust <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:32:22 -0700
I suspect if you don't pull together the best technology will die. I
still go back to apple depreciating the tools and dropping WO. It
would be a hell of a lot easier if they at least had it as a
option. They should have you guys go back and bring it up to speed
and then start reselling it again with a good part of the proceeds
going back to you people. Apple is building that big server farm in
NC and
could provide a very attractive solution to many companies. Apple
should probably re-vist the corporate world even if in a small way,
this of course would be one way. It is obvious that the technology is
very sound
thanks to you all and even the ones who are trying to keep WO 4.5
alive. It may be crazy but I think WO should be back in the Cocoa
world and you guys could do that quite easily with the support of
apple. The windows people may not like it but Mac are getting
cheaper :)
thats my take
On Oct 23, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
The problem with this is time... I was thinking of a online book
where you can ask O'Reilly or other publisher to print it and sell
it to give back to writers, like Thinking in Java or the MySQL
manual are. And frankly, based on the number of people who wanted to
attend WOWODC East for the beginner track was so low that's part of
the reason we dropped it (the track). But at the same time, people
say in the surveys that the scarity of developers is a problem, so
it's a chicken-and-egg problem. And also the fact that's is always
the same group of 10-15 persons who give back to the community,
which is, speaking only for myself, a burden.
IMHO
You gurus need to put out a few really in-depth tutorials. Maybe
each could do a little piece. It is hard to sell something like WO
without a good way
for people to get in the loop. You may want to review Joshua'
Marker's book on WO which I thought was the absolute best for
attracting new people to
the technology. After reading this book you could actually build a
functioning WO site. You could easily do this with a few very good
tutorials.
ken
On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:27 AM, John Larson wrote:
I'm kind of goading Chuck on to write a sequel to "Practical
WebObjects." How about "Absurdly Cool WebObjects"?
The Book of Chuck?
WebObjects: Getting Chunky Wid It?
I won't say never, but right now I am having a hard time getting
the time to finish WOVNG.
Chuck
On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
Hi!
On 2009/10/23, at 17:46, John & Kim Larson wrote:
without having the patience to read the manual,
Is there a manual?
Yours
Miguel Arroz
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