Re: 2009 surveys results
Re: 2009 surveys results
- Subject: Re: 2009 surveys results
- From: Simon <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:41:16 +0100
Don - why not put your stuff on the wiki? Maybe it's not got much
attention because nobody can find it ? For info I can't even access it
on my iPhone. - I just get a blank page
Simon
On Sunday, October 25, 2009, Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Don,
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> This is good stuff. How would anyone know your good materials exist?
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> I think it is a good idea, whether a blog, tutorials, videos, to put cross-links to those on at least the following two places somewhere:
> wiki.objectstyle.org (any of us can edit that)
> wocommunity.org (Pascal)
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> Try googling for "WOLips Install Tutorial" and see what you find.
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> The first two google results point to wiki.objectstyle.org .... so cross-link to your tutorials from there.... even linking to specific pages on your site from pages that deal with similar topics.
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> Regards, Kieran
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> On Oct 24, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Don Lindsay wrote:
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> I agree with Robert, I created several tutorials for WebObjects as well as an installer for windows and linux. This is something that I use my spare time to support.
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> Based on my review of hits to the tutorials, they are rarely accessed. If they were used more, I would create more of them.
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> The tutorials I made are available at: http://web.me.com/pccdonl/tutorials/WoLipsInstall.htm as is the installer. (I havent updated the installer in a couple of months)
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> Don
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
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> The problem with this is time... I was thinking of a online book where you can ask O'Reilly or other publisher to print it and sell it to give back to writers, like Thinking in Java or the MySQL manual are. And frankly, based on the number of people who wanted to attend WOWODC East for the beginner track was so low that's part of the reason we dropped it (the track). But at the same time, people say in the surveys that the scarity of developers is a problem, so it's a chicken-and-egg problem. And also the fact that's is always the same group of 10-15 persons who give back to the community, which is, speaking only for myself, a burden.
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> IMHO
> You gurus need to put out a few really in-depth tutorials. Maybe each could do a little piece. It is hard to sell something like WO without a good way
> for people to get in the loop. You may want to review Joshua' Marker's book on WO which I thought was the absolute best for attracting new people to
> the technology. After reading this book you could actually build a functioning WO site. You could easily do this with a few very good tutorials.
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> ken
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
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> On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:27 AM, John Larson wrote:
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> I'm kind of goading Chuck on to write a sequel to "Practical WebObjects." How about "Absurdly Cool WebObjects"?
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> The Book of Chuck?
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> WebObjects: Getting Chunky Wid It?
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> I won't say never, but right now I am having a hard time getting the time to finish WOVNG.
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> Chuck
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> On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
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> Hi!
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> On 2009/10/23, at 17:46, John & Kim Larson wrote:
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> without having the patience to read the manual,
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> Is there a manual?
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> Yours
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> Miguel Arroz
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