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Re: WebObjects become opensource ?


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects become opensource ?
  • From: Miguel Arroz <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:27:03 +0100

Hi!

Or you may all move to Europe, where software patents are not valid. :)

  (This would greatly simplify WOWODC organization!)

  Yours

Miguel Arroz

On 2009/09/15, at 17:10, Mike Schrag wrote:

As I understand it, NeXT (and now Apple) actually has a patent on KVC and O-R mapping ... They seem obvious now (well, unless you've looked at EOF source :) ), but pretty novel in 1994. It's a weird thing for me. People obviously abuse the hell out of them, but if you believe regular patents are legit, it seems to me there is obviously _something_ to software patents. I think the "obviousness" test is not being effectively applied, but I suppose if you come up with something TRULY novel, why shouldn't you have protection on it just like someone who invents some mechanical device? 20 YEARS might be a bit much .... meh . oh well. It is what it is at this point.

On Sep 15, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Q wrote:


On 16/09/2009, at 1:09 AM, André Mitra wrote:

you don't have Apple stock?

Software patents are just evil. I recently investigated the possibility of writing something for the iphone but the patent indemnity cost for one of the key technology components it required was prohibitively expensive.


If used to defend against competition of a real shipping product I can see the value in software patents. But when they are used purely as a cash generating portfolio with no real commercial interest, that just isn't right.

On 15-Sep-09, at 10:52 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:

Death to software patents (and their holders!)

Cheers, Anjo



Am 15.09.2009 um 15:57 schrieb Mike Schrag:

apple has patents on many aspects of WebObjects that are valuable

On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Mike Nowak wrote:

I just don't understand why an enterprise level technology like WebObjects is a state secret. I can understand why consumer products need a level of secrecy to build excitement and not to cannibalize sales but WebObjects?

On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:45 PM, David LeBer wrote:

Mike,

Not to be harsh, but you are not going to get that. Apple is not going to make any kind of public statement about WebObjects NOT being deprecated.

If Apple had depreciated WO they would have issued a statement to that effect. They haven't.

-- Mike Nowak Center for Health Communications Research The University of Michigan http://chcr.umich.edu

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