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Re: WebObjects become opensource ?
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Re: WebObjects become opensource ?


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects become opensource ?
  • From: Klaus Berkling <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:21:09 -0700


On Sep 16, 2009, at 5:14 AM, Mike Nowak wrote:

I don't care particularly if its open source. I just want a road map or a deprecation date if any.

Yeah, me too. WO being Open Source doesn't do anything for me - other than that I can share my WO deployment installer with the wocommunity.

We know that WO is used extensively inside Apple and would be expensive to move away from.
We also know that WO works just fine in Snow Leopard. Unless Apple pulls Java from the OS, WO will continue to work on Mac OS X Client/Server.

What I truly do not get is why WO is not, in Applespeak, "Supported" in Show Leopard.

Bare with me:

There is a service plug-in for MySQL in Server Admin. MySQL is not supported by Apple.
MySQL never got updated through the OS updates (4.x to 5.x)

There is no reason not to push out independent updates for WO through the Software Update mechanism.
iTunes is independent from the Server OS updates, so is Apple Remote Desktop. I don't need or want those on my server - it's not forced on me.

So,
Why is there no service plugin for WO in Server Admin?
Why is WO not included in the OS distribution?

What's the cost of putting WO and the service plug-in in the OS (actually the plug-in is there already)? Well, there is the cost of qualifying WO for the OS, testing and all that. But there is more to that to cause the not "Not supported" 

My guess is WO going independent, similar in some ways to FileMaker and they are delayed in what they want to do. It does not explain the total exclusion of WO from Snow Leopard, that just not nice for a fellow Apple technology.


On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

apple has patents on many aspects of WebObjects that are valuable

On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Mike Nowak wrote:

I just don't understand why an enterprise level technology like WebObjects is a state secret. I can understand why consumer products need a level of secrecy to build excitement and not to cannibalize sales but WebObjects?

On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:45 PM, David LeBer wrote:

Mike,

Not to be harsh, but you are not going to get that. Apple is not going to make any kind of public statement about WebObjects NOT being deprecated.

If Apple had depreciated WO they would have issued a statement to that effect. They haven't.

--


Thanks

kib

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
Winston Churchill

Klaus Berkling
Web Application Dev. & Systems Administrator
DynEd International, Inc.
www.dyned.com | www.eskimo.com/~kiberkli




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