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Re: WebObjects become opensource ?
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Re: WebObjects become opensource ?


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects become opensource ?
  • From: "s. tunji turner" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:19:41 -0400

How about a blog built using opensourced blog application code and the opensourced wonder framework w/ examples of it connecting to different opensoured dbs( ie MYSQL)

S. Tunji Turner

On Sep 17, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Ray Kiddy <email@hidden> wrote:


On Sep 17, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Christian Trotobas wrote:

<snip>
But in the meantime, please let's continue and advocate. For a few years, and maybe for a while in the future, we are not only WO developers and supporters, but also marketing people by need. Today, nobody on Earth shares a better position than ours to advocate WO. Sometimes, unfortunately, it comes to believing or not. If we don't, who will ?



Before I turn the "kill thread" button back on for this subject, I wanted to reply to this excellent note. If anyone is tempted to despair about WebObjects, I would have to ask what are you doing to improve the situation. Ask yourself this.


1) How much of the documentation in Project WOnder have I added or updated or improved lately?

2) How many tests have I added to Project WOnder lately? Note that these tests could just test WO itself.

3) Do I acknowledge Project WOnder and other open source projects in my work?

Project WOnder has a bug database. It has a wiki. That means anyone can edit it. It has source or adding to or overriding functionality or fixing bugs in WO. What else is needed?

The best thing you can do to help WebObjects is to help Project WOnder and WOLips. This is why I quit Apple. I can do more for WebObjects outside the company than in the WebObjects team. This is sad, but true.

Lines of code is not always an amazingly meaningful measure of anything, but I wanted to point out that if one looks at the LoC in Project WOnder and the LoC of all the WO frameworks when I quit Apple, Project WOnder does not have very far to go to catch up. Just FYI, if there were some reason that we needed to replace WO completely, it would not be that hard. The challenges here are not technical.

cheers - ray

ps: If anyone has any suggestions for something I can do with the openwebobjects.(com/net/org) domains, let me know. Otherwise, I'll be ready.
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