Re: TurnKey Installer Components
Re: TurnKey Installer Components
- Subject: Re: TurnKey Installer Components
- From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:21:23 -0400
On 2010-10-07, at 11:18 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
> Doesn't mean we need to be complicit in their terrible life decisions. And, I would wager that developers would be tend to be more discerning with respect to permissions. I think this is officially a religious argument at this point. I nominate that Jeremy just does whatever makes him feel good ........ with the knowledge that I'll kill a kitten if he puts it in /Applications.
>
> Should we switch over to debating optimal code formatter preferences and curly brace placement?
I vote for Jeremy to not put it in /Applications because I like kittens... a lot. I also vote for someone to put an alias on the desktop 'cause I really want to see Mike punch EVERYONE in the face.
Loading up on popcorn and getting comfy, this should be good.
>
> ms
>
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:12 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
>
>> How do 99% of all Mac users run? I'm guessing as admin users (there's a little evil in all of us).
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Mike Schrag <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> That's because you either made it world-writable or you run as an admin user, either of which is kind of evil.
>>>
>>> ms
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:53 AM, John Huss wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have put eclipse into /Applications forever and I've never had a single problem with permissions. I think that is a non-issue.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> I disagree with you and Timo, and I agree with Mike and others. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> In summary 2 good reasons for installing in ~/Applications, considering that novice/intermediate users are the ones we are trying to make life easy for.....
>>>>
>>>> 1) Writeable Eclipse dir ... keep writeable in user dir. Prevent permission issues that 'stump' newbies into giving up too early.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Painless migrations to new machines
>>>>
>>>> -Kieran
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:54 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I'm pretty against ~/Applications. Nothing installs there by default. Why would we make an installer that's targeted at getting new users up and running install in a place other than the normal /Applications? Sure ~/Applications is _better_ but it's not _normal_.
>>>> >
>>>> > If they're advanced enough to want it in ~/Applications then they can move it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave
>>>> >
>>>> > On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I had no idea what I was getting myself into....heh.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This is for newbies...generally speaking, so we'll do ~/Applications...maybe offer a choice...dunno yet.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -j
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>> I was the same until recently when I switched to a new machine and forgot to copy over eclipse for the umteen'th time. So I moved it to my home directory instead.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> If eclipse kept it's plugins and other global config in my home directory I would have no reason to keep it there also.
>>>> >>> welcome to one of the longest-standing debates in eclipse history
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ms
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
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