Re: TurnKey Installer Components
Re: TurnKey Installer Components
- Subject: Re: TurnKey Installer Components
- From: Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 08:44:04 -0700 (PDT)
my 2 cents about /Applications
I manage a network with mostly Managed Mobil Users. These are people working in Quark, Indesign. I had to make the /Applications/Quarkxpress world writable or it wouldn't work correctly.
I don't know that this is so 'bad'.
Ted
--- On Thu, 10/7/10, David LeBer <email@hidden> wrote:
> From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: TurnKey Installer Components
> To: email@hidden
> Cc: "WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List" <email@hidden>
> Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 11:21 AM
>
> On 2010-10-07, at 11:18 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>
> > Doesn't mean we need to be complicit in their terrible
> life decisions. And, I would wager that developers would be
> tend to be more discerning with respect to permissions. I
> think this is officially a religious argument at this point.
> I nominate that Jeremy just does whatever makes him feel
> good ........ with the knowledge that I'll kill a kitten if
> he puts it in /Applications.
> >
> > Should we switch over to debating optimal code
> formatter preferences and curly brace placement?
>
> I vote for Jeremy to not put it in /Applications because I
> like kittens... a lot. I also vote for someone to put an
> alias on the desktop 'cause I really want to see Mike punch
> EVERYONE in the face.
>
> Loading up on popcorn and getting comfy, this should be
> good.
>
> >
> > ms
> >
> > On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:12 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
> >
> >> How do 99% of all Mac users run? I'm guessing as
> admin users (there's a little evil in all of us).
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's because you either made it
> world-writable or you run as an admin user, either of which
> is kind of evil.
> >>>
> >>> ms
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:53 AM, John Huss wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have put eclipse into /Applications
> forever and I've never had a single problem with
> permissions. I think that is a non-issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Kieran
> Kelleher <email@hidden>
> wrote:
> >>>> David,
> >>>>
> >>>> I disagree with you and Timo, and I agree
> with Mike and others. ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> In summary 2 good reasons for installing
> in ~/Applications, considering that novice/intermediate
> users are the ones we are trying to make life easy for.....
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) Writeable Eclipse dir ... keep
> writeable in user dir. Prevent permission issues that
> 'stump' newbies into giving up too early.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) Painless migrations to new machines
> >>>>
> >>>> -Kieran
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:54 AM, David
> Avendasora wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > I'm pretty against ~/Applications.
> Nothing installs there by default. Why would we make an
> installer that's targeted at getting new users up and
> running install in a place other than the normal
> /Applications? Sure ~/Applications is _better_ but it's not
> _normal_.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If they're advanced enough to want it
> in ~/Applications then they can move it.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Dave
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Jeremy
> Matthews wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> I had no idea what I was getting
> myself into....heh.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> This is for newbies...generally
> speaking, so we'll do ~/Applications...maybe offer a
> choice...dunno yet.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> -j
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Mike
> Schrag wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> I was the same until
> recently when I switched to a new machine and forgot to copy
> over eclipse for the umteen'th time. So I moved it to my
> home directory instead.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> If eclipse kept it's
> plugins and other global config in my home directory I would
> have no reason to keep it there also.
> >>>> >>> welcome to one of the
> longest-standing debates in eclipse history
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> ms
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
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