Re: Java apps not in new Mac App Store???
Re: Java apps not in new Mac App Store???
- Subject: Re: Java apps not in new Mac App Store???
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:49:07 -0700
That was my first thought when I head this.
Chuck
On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:56 AM, Simon wrote:
> This is great news for java developers on the mac platform. Apples
> development of the mac jvm has been dog slow for years. Where is java
> 7? Where is java 8? Oracle will pick up from here and we'll have
> regular updates and access to the latest kit....
>
> Simon
>
>
> On Thursday, October 21, 2010, David Avendasora
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>> Hi Matthias,
>> Where did the X11 come from? I don't see that in the emails you are copying below.
>> Also, as Rob Ross pointed out below, this ends up making MacOS X the same as every other OS out there, you will have to download and install a JVM yourself in future versions of OS X. Where to get a third-party JVM for Mac? That's another question. Now that Apple isn't providing their own JVM and they've opened OS X up for others, there should be a third-party, or even a Sun/Oracle VM soon.
>> There's a _lot_ of Java coders out there using Macs. It's a vacuum that isn't going to last long.
>> It does suck that Apple's own JVM is being deprecated, but it's not like Microsoft has their own JVM either and Java seems to work just fine there.
>> Dave
>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Matthias Jakob wrote:
>> LOOOOLLOLOL
>> and Eclipse with X11?
>> At this time if there is no native gui java, macosx is dead for me our company our deployment an ALL our customers!
>> so apple: think twice!!
>>
>>
>> PS: WO Guys, Mike whats the hell is this -> X11 ??
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>> Am 21.10.2010 um 12:03 schrieb Shawn Erickson:
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Rob Ross <email@hidden> wrote:
>> It is worse than this. Not only are Java apps not going to be permitted, Apple is actually *removing* Java from future Mac OS versions. So even if you wanted to develop a Java app for the Mac App store, you are prohibited because Java is now deprecated...just in time for the Mac App store announcement.
>>
>> That these two announcements happen on the same day is very suspicious, and it is hard not to think they are quite related.
>>
>> If your product needs Java you are now free to bundle/install a JVM
>> with your product (or point customers at it) and the OS will support
>> using it. Many folks have been asking for this capability. This is
>> like most other operating systems. It is also similar to products that
>> use things like Qt, they bundle it with their application.
>>
>> If you purchased a Mac to do Java development you can continue to use
>> it for that by using a 3rd party JVM, etc.
>>
>> Apple isn't planning to continue their JVM port essentially but they
>> aren't preventing others from doing so. It sucks but...
>>
>> -Shawn
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