Re: Java apps not in new Mac App Store???
Re: Java apps not in new Mac App Store???
- Subject: Re: Java apps not in new Mac App Store???
- From: Johnny Miller <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:17:49 -1000
I hope this is true. Yesterday, Apple was bragging that their install base is now 50M macs. It's hard to imagine Oracle ignoring all those customers. And it's true that Apple's VM has lagged for a long time and at times has been a lot slower than the Sun supplied VM for Windows.
On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> That was my first thought when I head this.
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> Chuck
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> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:56 AM, Simon wrote:
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>> This is great news for java developers on the mac platform. Apples
>> development of the mac jvm has been dog slow for years. Where is java
>> 7? Where is java 8? Oracle will pick up from here and we'll have
>> regular updates and access to the latest kit....
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>> Simon
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>> On Thursday, October 21, 2010, David Avendasora
>> <email@hidden> wrote:
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> Where did the X11 come from? I don't see that in the emails you are copying below.
>>> Also, as Rob Ross pointed out below, this ends up making MacOS X the same as every other OS out there, you will have to download and install a JVM yourself in future versions of OS X. Where to get a third-party JVM for Mac? That's another question. Now that Apple isn't providing their own JVM and they've opened OS X up for others, there should be a third-party, or even a Sun/Oracle VM soon.
>>> There's a _lot_ of Java coders out there using Macs. It's a vacuum that isn't going to last long.
>>> It does suck that Apple's own JVM is being deprecated, but it's not like Microsoft has their own JVM either and Java seems to work just fine there.
>>> Dave
>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Matthias Jakob wrote:
>>> LOOOOLLOLOL
>>> and Eclipse with X11?
>>> At this time if there is no native gui java, macosx is dead for me our company our deployment an ALL our customers!
>>> so apple: think twice!!
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>>>
>>> PS: WO Guys, Mike whats the hell is this -> X11 ??
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>>> Am 21.10.2010 um 12:03 schrieb Shawn Erickson:
>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Rob Ross <email@hidden> wrote:
>>> It is worse than this. Not only are Java apps not going to be permitted, Apple is actually *removing* Java from future Mac OS versions. So even if you wanted to develop a Java app for the Mac App store, you are prohibited because Java is now deprecated...just in time for the Mac App store announcement.
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>>> That these two announcements happen on the same day is very suspicious, and it is hard not to think they are quite related.
>>>
>>> If your product needs Java you are now free to bundle/install a JVM
>>> with your product (or point customers at it) and the OS will support
>>> using it. Many folks have been asking for this capability. This is
>>> like most other operating systems. It is also similar to products that
>>> use things like Qt, they bundle it with their application.
>>>
>>> If you purchased a Mac to do Java development you can continue to use
>>> it for that by using a 3rd party JVM, etc.
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>>> Apple isn't planning to continue their JVM port essentially but they
>>> aren't preventing others from doing so. It sucks but...
>>>
>>> -Shawn
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