Re: Apple Representation On WebObjects-Dev Mailing List?
Re: Apple Representation On WebObjects-Dev Mailing List?
- Subject: Re: Apple Representation On WebObjects-Dev Mailing List?
- From: Tim Worman <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:44:48 -0700
On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:39 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
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> Le 2011-07-10 à 22:12, Ken Anderson a écrit :
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>> I remember Nibble!
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>> Yes, Pascal, you are pretty young for the community at 35!
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>> I'm sorry I couldn't make WOWODC this year - lets start planning the next one so I can plan my family vacation around it :)
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> I'm tempted to do it on the same week-end (June 29-30, July 1) next year.
That would actually work pretty well I think. July 4th weekend was a tough pull this year.
This entire thread has actually ended up being a bit reassuring - it pulled a lot of posters out with names I don't remember seeing before.
Tim Worman
UCLA GSE&IS
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>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
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>>> It's honestly pretty simple.
>>>
>>> Apple never makes statements about future products, or their plan for existing products. If you're holding your breath for that to happen, good luck!
>>>
>>> The community continues to maintain / upgrade WO in a way that is far better than a corporation holding the reins. Even for a currently sold commercial product, what guarantee is there that it will be updated? Or Open Source projects that have little to no support when the champion has left it?
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>>> To me, just the fact that WebObjects has been around since 1996 (15 years!) means that it has more legs than any other tool I can think of.
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>>> YMMV
>>>
>>> Ken
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>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Karl wrote:
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>>>> I don’t think that there is an issue about it disappearing. The license allows us to use what we have now indefinitely.
>>>>
>>>> The issue is about moving forwards and modernizing...
>>>>
>>>> Karl
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>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Robert B. Hanviriyapunt wrote:
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>>>>> How about the continued availability of WO. People can SAY that Apple relies heavily on WO and thus it won't go away, but again it just feels more secure knowing that it is officially true, and that WO will always be kept out there so that I can put away my doubts that it will suddenly disappear. I'd just feel safer while we're all building on this platform that it won't be pulled from under us.
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>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
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>>>>>> there has been official word-- you just gotta go back ten years and ask ernie prabhakar or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> seriously, the official word is that WO is and shall remain WO and will never be open sourced or whatever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I opine as well, but that's the way it is and shall be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Robert B. Hanviriyapunt wrote:
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>>>>>>> Who, if anyone, represents Apple on this mailing list? When it comes to questions of open-sourcing WO or the availability of WO, the answer should be posted by an Apple official rep. in this mailing list. Anyone can opine, but I think the group benefits greatly when an official word is heard -- second best to that is an "insider", even if not officially charged by Apple to represent in the list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>>>
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