Re: Finding WO people for startups (cult of the dead)
Re: Finding WO people for startups (cult of the dead)
- Subject: Re: Finding WO people for startups (cult of the dead)
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:53:40 -0400
Thanks Ramsey,
I didn't know WOLips did that. That
is cool :-)
Anyway I think we table this discussion...
This is a WO list after all. I probably should have kept my mouth shut.
For Andrew, Chuck, Mark, Jim, and others
I'll give one quick overview and be done. Everything is out there on the
net anyway.
When I picked up Ruby on Rails after
attending a "No Fluff Just Stuff" convention I thought to myself
"Did these people ever use WebObjects?" To me you need to learn
and use WO before you can even think about making something better.
When I picked up Seaside and tried doing
stuff with it I thought "Wow, this guy made WO Better." All the
plumbing is there and it makes sense.
Back in 2009 I wrote this blog post
that explains this a bit more:
http://www.somethingiknow.com/aaronCorner/aaronSoftwareBlog/What_happened_to_WebObjects
Briefly I'll add the following:
Smalltalk -> Eclipse plus Java and
JRebel combined
Seaside -> WebObjects, AJAX, WOnder
without the EOF bits - "magic" component actions, synchronization
of bindings, and sessionless direct actions.
Magritte -> D2W
Monticello -> GIT
Swazoo -> WOMonitor, WOTaskd
Gemstone -> Object database on par
with Oracle (expensive, widely used)
Magma -> Object database on par with
Postgress (open source, not as widely used)
Handful of ORM solutions for relational
db -> on par with Hibernate
All those times you use WO and say "it's
magic" you get that same feeling with Seaside. Very few frameworks
do this well.
-- Aaron
Ramsey Gurley <email@hidden> wrote
on 09/28/2011 02:31:38 PM:
>
> Just in response to that last part... Command-shift-F works fine for
> me to reformat a WOComponent's html in WOLips. It uses spaces
> instead of tabs though, which bugs the crap out of me. Well,
enough
> not to use it very often, but not enough to actually find a way to
> make it use tabs when I use it. (^_^)
>
> Ramsey
>
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