Re: Finding WO people for startups (cult of the dead)
Re: Finding WO people for startups (cult of the dead)
- Subject: Re: Finding WO people for startups (cult of the dead)
- From: Marius Soutier <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:01:08 +0200
The Clojure Enlive library allows you to create code-free static HTML and replace the contents from Clojure dynamically by applying functions to CSS-like selectors. I think I like that approach best so far.
On 29.09.2011, at 09:28, Simon wrote:
>>> renderContentOn: html
>>>
>>> html table: [
>>> html
>>> tableRow: [
>>> html tableData: [html text: 'Table entry']];
>>> tableRow: [
>>> html tableData: [html text: 'Table entry']]].
>>>
>>> Look foreign? Perhaps but it's worth getting your feet wet and kicking these ideas around. I've seen many things and this is the first set of tools and processes that make me feel good. Like it is equivalent and perhaps better than WO. It's brain dead easy to install and there are a number of tutorials out there.
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>> OK, I see what you are talking about now. I am not sure if that is a win for me. I have this designer that I often work with and he is able to take an Eclipse project and edit the .HTML files to make design changes. He does not touch the WOD or the Java. This has been working pretty well for us. Switching to Seaside would mean that we would have to take the initial designs, convert them into code, and have the developers maintain them through the inevitable changes. I'd have to see how much time the rest of it would save me.
>
> totally agree. this is not a plus for us either. our UI people play
> with html (we don't do wod's, 100% inline bindings), and our java
> people play with Java.
>
> the thought that our java team would have the UI team on their backs
> all day saying "er, can you change that <table>, <tr> and <td> mess
> you're pumping out for a list please (like i told you last time)"
> fills me with fear!
>
> even if you keep your UI people to tidy up with css, surely they are
> going to be nagging java engineers to get the correct id's and classes
> pegged to the html the java code is pumping out ? it seems this is
> only a benefit if your java people actually look after the whole UI
> piece as well - and i've yet to find a java engineer that has style.
> no offence intended :-)
>
> Simon
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