Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
- Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
- From: Paul Yu <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 12:40:11 -0400
Do we think that Apple, the Largest Corporation in the world, will press an issue with a bunch of small companies using derived work of a product they abandoned?
What is the negative publicity cost to them?
What is the positive financial value to them?
How much will it cost Apple just to assign some legal counsel to write you a letter? Then deal with the publicity backlash of such an action?
Doesn’t Project WOnder already infringe on Apple copyrighted APIs?
Paul
> On May 12, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Jean Pierre Malrieu <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Yes, sure. But is there a way to test Apple’s willingness to legally respond to an infringement of their copyright?
>
>> Le 12 mai 2016 à 18:26, Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden> a écrit :
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>> Legally, no. Copyright still applies to abandonware. Whatever the way forward is, we can’t use WO code.
>>
>> - hugi
>>
>>
>>> On 12. maí 2016, at 16:21, Jean Pierre Malrieu <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apple will probably never open source WO.
>>> But does the fact that WO is officially « AbandonWare » have consequences for the TB initiative?
>>>
>>> JPM
>>>
>>>> Le 3 mai 2016 à 19:13, Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I think it’s good news—at least much better than the kind-of-certain-but-not-really uncertainty we’ve had for the past decade or so.
>>>>
>>>> And I don’t think we should be holding our breath waiting for Apple to open source WO. As awesome as that would be, though :).
>>>>
>>>> - hugi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 3. maí 2016, at 16:47, Flavio Donadio <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. The silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us the truth, although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final word, straight from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
>>>>>
>>>>> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as open source software! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Flavio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a long time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially (at least I don't recall there being an official statement).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, asking about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, I was contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. The guy I spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had absolutely no idea what WO was but the second time he called, he had obtained information and had a clear statement: "WebObjects is a discontinued product and will never be upgraded".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to tell you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the police calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of your friend that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him dead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We just need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> - hugi
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