Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
- Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
- From: Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 16:40:40 +0000
No. And I would never base my solutions on (nor sell my customers) anything based on a legally ambiguous product. Doing so is amazingly irresponsible.
> On 12. maí 2016, at 16:36, Jean Pierre Malrieu <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Yes, sure. But is there a way to test Apple’s willingness to legally respond to an infringement of their copyright?
>
>> Le 12 mai 2016 à 18:26, Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden> a écrit :
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>> Legally, no. Copyright still applies to abandonware. Whatever the way forward is, we can’t use WO code.
>>
>> - hugi
>>
>>
>>> On 12. maí 2016, at 16:21, Jean Pierre Malrieu <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apple will probably never open source WO.
>>> But does the fact that WO is officially « AbandonWare » have consequences for the TB initiative?
>>>
>>> JPM
>>>
>>>> Le 3 mai 2016 à 19:13, Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I think it’s good news—at least much better than the kind-of-certain-but-not-really uncertainty we’ve had for the past decade or so.
>>>>
>>>> And I don’t think we should be holding our breath waiting for Apple to open source WO. As awesome as that would be, though :).
>>>>
>>>> - hugi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 3. maí 2016, at 16:47, Flavio Donadio <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. The silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us the truth, although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final word, straight from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
>>>>>
>>>>> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as open source software! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Flavio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a long time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially (at least I don't recall there being an official statement).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, asking about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, I was contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. The guy I spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had absolutely no idea what WO was but the second time he called, he had obtained information and had a clear statement: "WebObjects is a discontinued product and will never be upgraded".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to tell you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the police calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of your friend that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him dead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We just need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> - hugi
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