Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
- Subject: Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
- From: Andrus Adamchik via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 15:29:37 +0300
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss>
> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Thank Andrus for you take… really good write up.
>
> And what is PHBs?
>
> Gibi
>
>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:25, Andrus Adamchik <email@hidden
>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>
>> My opinionated take is the following:
>>
>> * The "official" JavaEE is dead and is now a pure volunteer effort under
>> https://jakarta.ee/ <https://jakarta.ee/> . The "appserver" concept has
>> almost disappeared and morphed to something different. All the past market
>> leaders have moved on to more lightweight solutions, though some still cling
>> to .war deployment.
>>
>> * SpringBoot is the market leader in the Java world. If you are looking to
>> build a marketable Java developer resume, learn SpringBoot.
>>
>> * If you need to write apps for your org or your customers, and are not
>> constrained by the PHBs opinion, use Bootique. It is a better platform in
>> the modern appserver-free world. Bootique is "commercially-viable" in a
>> sense that there are hundreds of apps that run in prod for a number of
>> years. But it is still an open source effort supported by community and a
>> mid-sized company (ObjectStyle), so it is sometimes an uphill battle in
>> organizations that are looking to conform to the lowest common denominator.
>>
>> So you decide :)
>>
>> Andrus
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
>>> <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for that… it looks really interesting…
>>>
>>> Is it a commercially viable alternative to some of the others like JBoss,
>>> Tomcat, Websphere etc..
>>>
>>> I would like to add another feather to my bow but not really sure which
>>> architecture to devote time to so that I can work on bigger projects in a
>>> team...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 11:16, Andrus Adamchik <email@hidden
>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We are using Bootique: https://bootique.io/ <https://bootique.io/>
>>>>
>>>> Just like SpringBoot, its idea is that it is not an "appserver". It gives
>>>> you a plain Java app with your own "main" method, and a way to assemble
>>>> various components together (and also modularity, dependency injection,
>>>> consistent configuration and a large collection of ready-to-use modules).
>>>> The app can serve web requests, run jobs or do whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Unlike SpringBoot, Bootique is much smaller, starts much faster, and
>>>> doesn't feel like magic. Also all the apps you write are automatically
>>>> equipped with POSIX CLI.
>>>>
>>>> Andrus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Paul Yu via Webobjects-dev
>>>>> <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Spring and it’s ecosystem seems to be pretty powerful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> Please excuse iOS autocomplete
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
>>>>>> <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hey if any one was to use a different app server configuration other
>>>>>> than WO what would you choose and why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are most companies requesting these days in a Java system?
>>>>
>>>
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