Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
- Subject: Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
- From: Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:30:54 +0000
LOL!!!!!!
> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:29, Andrus Adamchik <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss>
>
>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
>> <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank Andrus for you take… really good write up.
>>
>> And what is PHBs?
>>
>> Gibi
>>
>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:25, Andrus Adamchik <email@hidden
>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My opinionated take is the following:
>>>
>>> * The "official" JavaEE is dead and is now a pure volunteer effort under
>>> https://jakarta.ee/ <https://jakarta.ee/> . The "appserver" concept has
>>> almost disappeared and morphed to something different. All the past market
>>> leaders have moved on to more lightweight solutions, though some still
>>> cling to .war deployment.
>>>
>>> * SpringBoot is the market leader in the Java world. If you are looking to
>>> build a marketable Java developer resume, learn SpringBoot.
>>>
>>> * If you need to write apps for your org or your customers, and are not
>>> constrained by the PHBs opinion, use Bootique. It is a better platform in
>>> the modern appserver-free world. Bootique is "commercially-viable" in a
>>> sense that there are hundreds of apps that run in prod for a number of
>>> years. But it is still an open source effort supported by community and a
>>> mid-sized company (ObjectStyle), so it is sometimes an uphill battle in
>>> organizations that are looking to conform to the lowest common denominator.
>>>
>>> So you decide :)
>>>
>>> Andrus
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
>>>> <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for that… it looks really interesting…
>>>>
>>>> Is it a commercially viable alternative to some of the others like JBoss,
>>>> Tomcat, Websphere etc..
>>>>
>>>> I would like to add another feather to my bow but not really sure which
>>>> architecture to devote time to so that I can work on bigger projects in a
>>>> team...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 11:16, Andrus Adamchik <email@hidden
>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We are using Bootique: https://bootique.io/ <https://bootique.io/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like SpringBoot, its idea is that it is not an "appserver". It gives
>>>>> you a plain Java app with your own "main" method, and a way to assemble
>>>>> various components together (and also modularity, dependency injection,
>>>>> consistent configuration and a large collection of ready-to-use modules).
>>>>> The app can serve web requests, run jobs or do whatever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike SpringBoot, Bootique is much smaller, starts much faster, and
>>>>> doesn't feel like magic. Also all the apps you write are automatically
>>>>> equipped with POSIX CLI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Paul Yu via Webobjects-dev
>>>>>> <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spring and it’s ecosystem seems to be pretty powerful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> Please excuse iOS autocomplete
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
>>>>>>> <email@hidden
>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hey if any one was to use a different app server configuration other
>>>>>>> than WO what would you choose and why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are most companies requesting these days in a Java system?
>>>>>
>>>>
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